[Zope-Coders] Making index_html a PageTemplate

Chris McDonough chrism@zope.com
15 May 2003 09:48:48 -0400


FTR, I am in favor of this... 

This essentially means a change to OFS.Application.install_standards().

It might be worthwhile to take the time to clean up that mess while
doing this as well.

- C


On Thu, 2003-05-15 at 06:30, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Hello fellow Zope coders,
> 
> I posted this to zope-dev yesterday but nobody seems to be interested 
> there, so I'll bug you with my idea:
> 
> I have been hanging around #zope on IRC a lot recently and noticed that
> a lot of newbies ask a lot of DTML questions. I tried to answer their
> questions but I always pointed them to ZPT in the end. I was amazed that
> the majority had never heard of ZPT or thought that their problem could
> only be solved with DTML.
> 
> I've been emailing with Chris McDonough (see out thread on the ZDP
> mailinglist) and we found that the following two reasons might be
> responsible to this:
> 
>    a) newbies, esp. scripters, like to play around without reading docs
> 
>    b) the tutorial is grossly out of date
> 
> a) seems is a common behaviour which we cannot change. We can, however,
> change what newbies find on their path of trial and error. I think a big
> false symbol is that index_html is still a DTML Method. Everybody with
> some knowledge of web suite building knows what a index.html is so they
> will most likely look at that object named index_html. They see that it
> is a DTML Method so they'll say "Aha! HTML in Zope is done with DTML
> Methods".
> 
> Therefore, I propose to make index_html (and while we're at it, 
> standard_error_message, too) a PageTemplate for 2.7. Since this change 
> would not affect the framework at all, it should not interfere with the 
> release schedule for 2.7. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
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