Mike, How do I get the etcUserFolder out of a Zope if it won't allow a login. I've tried a crty module for my system, and it won't let me into the mangement interface. Help? I figured version 1.0.2 was stable enough not to deny me access right off the bat. All I did was install it, and it kicked me out. Ugh. Happy New year, Everyone. All my best, -- Jason Spisak webmaster@hiretechs.com