Zopsters, Can anyone recreate this bug. Zope 2.1.1, Intel RH 6.1, Python 1.5.2 Call CreateInObjectManager of a ZCatalog aware ZClass to create an instance. In the reation method call reindex_object. It gives you an Uncatalog of absent id error. All my best, -- Jason Spisak webmaster@hiretechs.com