[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-PTK] Roles, Groups, Security and Group Membership

Monty Taylor mtaylor@goldridge.net
Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:48:09 GMT


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On 7/4/00, 1:22:04 PM, Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com> wrote regarding 
[Zope-PTK] Roles, Groups, Security and Group Membership:


> Monty Taylor wrote:
> > Am I making any sense at all? Does anyone see either a need for doing
> > this or a way to do it? If it requires changes to PTK core, would anyone
> > be interested in those, or should I throw them in my pile of dirty little
> > secrets that no one should really know exist?

> You're making perfect sense and I think it's a Zope problem partly, and
> also a PTK problem.

Good point. I think as ZEO becomes more prevelant and Zope wants to 
compete in the 
realm of big systems, group based interaction could serve to iron some 
things out.

> The Zope problem is that Zope security has no idea about Groups.
> As in Users/Members exist
> There may have roles
> They may also be members of Groups.
> Groups may also be members of Groups.
> Groups may also have roles associated with THEM.

> Other major security systems I can think of (LDAP, Unix, NT, Notes) all
> have this concept but Zope does not :(

> Should this part of the discussion be moved to zope-dev?

Probably so. I've forwarded the original email there and I'm sending this 
one to zope-dev.
Any comments from the zope-dev world?

Monty