[Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( XSLT revisited )
Chimezie Thomas-Ogbuji
cogbuji@fourthought.com
Mon, 05 Jun 2000 14:12:42 -0600
Well, the XSLT Method can process XMLDocuments, and should soon be able
to process any
ZDOM decendents. So once ZDOM becomes fully integrated with Zope we
will have a fully
integrated XSLT processor.
Josh Zeidner wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It is great stuff! ( similar idea to Apache Cocoon )... now all we need is
> someone to put in an XSLT( 4XSLT ) processor into the core Zope code- are
> there any immediate plans for this? note: i realize this has been discussed
> before :) .
>
> -thanks, Josh Z
>
> >Hi, Josh
> >
> > Thanks for the insight! I also just noticed that there is a whole lot
> >of
> >good information already up there in the Wiki. This does look like great
> >stuff. I see how it complements Zope's current data storage capabilities.
> >It
> >provides good ways to move XML data in and out of the ZODB via XSLT and to
> >store and manipulate XML data efficiently using XML Documents. These are
> >excellent capabilities indeed.
> >
> > Have a great weekend!
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Josh Zeidner" <jmz_phylogenic@hotmail.com>
> >To: <kid@kendermedia.com>; <zope-dev@zope.org>
> >Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for
> >us? )
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > What FourThought/DC are currently doing with Zope will allow for fast
> > > transformations to memory-resident structured data( ZDOM or whatever )
> >to
> > > exportable XML documents( which are simply strings of characters ).
> >This
> > > introduces( to the Zope world ) cutting edge metaphors in
> >web-application
> > > design. All data to be served to a client is some form of XML:
> >including
> > > HTML ( a better term: structured data ). The internal structure, or
> > > representation( or "deep structure" if you are into Chomsky ), is the
> > > data/knowledge as the web site managers see it- and most likely the most
> > > accurate and flexible when dealing with the particular
> >ormation-domain(
> > > this is what theyre paid for :) ). Each user has custom needs- and
> >wants to
> > > see this information the way they( or the applications working on thier
> > > behalf ) are accustomed to. So, architectually speaking, we need a way
> >to
> > > easily and quickly construct XML documents from some meta-type( our
> >internal
> > > structure ). This is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us.
> > >
> > > Parsing is a expensive endeavor. It is not practical to parse
> >character
> > > streams every time we want to get at our data. So the solution is to
> > > represent the data as something more computationally digestible. Again
> >:
> > > this is
> >what ZDOM is accomplishing for us.
> > >
> > > Does this answer your question?
> > >
> > > have a good weekend,
> > >
> > > Josh Zeidner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -"zippa-dee-doo-da" , uncle remus
> > >
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML
> >is
> > > >going in Zope.
> > > >
> > > > I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has
> >been
> > > >in
> > > >its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store
> > > >data
> > > >as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform
> >those
> > > >into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS).
> >Similarly,
> > > >though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside
> > > >world,
> > > >parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages
> >to
> > > >storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Kevin
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Glenn Gasmen
> > > >To: zope-dev@zope.org
> > > >Cc: consultants@fourthought.com
> > > >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM
> > > >Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision
> >
> >
> >
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Chimezie Thomas-Ogbuji
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