[Zope-dev] ZPatterns: DropZone example

Steve Spicklemire steve@spvi.com
Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:45:59 -0500 (EST)


Hi Steve, (and any others who might care to comment....)

   I've been sorting through old ZPatterns email looking for 
inspiration and I came upon this:

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Alexander <steve@cat-box.net> writes:

    Steve> Hi folks,

    Steve> I've been looking at the DropZone example Phillip Eby
    Steve> provided on the ZPatterns Wiki.

    Steve> http://www.zope.org/Members/pje/Wikis/ZPatterns/DropZoneExample

    Steve> I've decided to start implementing it, so as to give myself
    Steve> an educational experience in using ZPatterns.

Did you get very far with this?  I'm still working out the best way to
get EMarket to work with ZPatterns in my copious spare time, and I've
hit a question... in the original EMarket design Shopper, MarketItem,
ShoppingBasket, and ShoppingBasketItem were all classes defined in
Python. With ZPatterns I'm moving in a direction in which these will
be replaced at runtime with customized objects that will merely play
the *role* of Shopper, etc... I see how the data associated with these
objects can be virtually provided using SkinScript etc... but I'm a
little confused about the methods of these objects. PJE makes it very
clear in his DropZone example (cited above) that when you allow
objects to 'role play', they do not subclass from anything in
particular, but rather just sort of 'drop in' and 'act like' any sort
of object they need to, in order to get the job done. However, without
subclassing... how do they get the Shopper methods? e.g., one EMarket
method might be:

aShopper.insertIntoShoppingBasket( mi=aMarketItem, quantity=qty )

One idea that occured to me was to make the specialists 'do' everything.

ShopperManager.InsertItemIntoShoppersBasket(shopper=aShopper, mi=aMarketItem, quantity=qty),

but this smells a little bit like the 'controller' paradigm that Coad et. al.
are so opposed to... It seems like 'big brother' for the ShopperManager to
be meddling with the individual items in a shopper's basket... but maybe
that's the best way... 

Anyway.. just fiddling around and looking for ideas...

thanks!
-steve