> Ive never looked at LDAPUserFolder so this may be irrelevant, but is > it possible for LDAPUserFolder to validate that the cached _v_ > information is still fresh? If that validation is quicker than > fetching a new copy then this is still an overall win. yes it does have a very rough way of validating the cache. there's a timeout on the cached objects. and yes, it's a *big* performance win. jens