[Zope-dev] FreeBSD, Zope and Plone

[alan runyan]

http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:kbNhA3pDch4C:plone.org/documentation/th
read_pthread.h/file_view+zope+stack+thread+patch+bsd&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

worked for me.. its ugly because its not a patch. but it worked fine w/
python2.1.3
and plone.org should shortly be up.  we are migrating all the content..

btw: Casey I would greatly appreciate you following up on what you said
about getting large file support and thread patch in ports.  that would
really
save alot of hair

cheers.
~runyaga

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles Lenfant" <gilles@pilotsystems.net>
To: "Casey Duncan" <casey@zope.com>; "alan runyan" <runyaga@runyaga.com>;
<zope-dev@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] FreeBSD, Zope and Plone


> Hi,
>
> I noticed lots of Zope crashes with FreeBSD 4.5/Python 2.1.3/Zope 2.5.1.
> Where can I find that Python patch you're talking about ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --Gilles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Casey Duncan" <casey@zope.com>
> To: "alan runyan" <runyaga@runyaga.com>; <zope-dev@zope.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] FreeBSD, Zope and Plone
>
>
> In my experience, python crashes on FreeBSD are due to the default thread
> stack size problem exclusively. I run Python/Zope with complex sites all
the
> time (not plone tho) and once patched appropriately it never crashes
unless
> I
> cause it to.
>
> There are two solutions to this IMHO:
>
> 1. Release a bug fix in Python (hasn't happened yet, but it has been
> discussed
> several times)
>
> 2. Patch the FreeBSD python port. This is likely an excellent solution and
> one
> which could also solve the large file support issue simulaneously.
>
> Unless PythonLabs tells me that 2.1.4 will fix these things, I will work
on
> making this happen this week. I will also see how plone behaves on my BSD
> box
> (firstly I guess).
>
> -Casey
>
> On Monday 16 September 2002 03:11 pm, alan runyan wrote:
> > I have just spent several hours trying to get plone.org back up.
> > It appears that Plone and FreeBSD are not made for each other.
> > I end up getting core dumps.  I applied the 'thread stack' patch.
> > I also tried to use Python2.2.1 w/ chrism_installer branch and
> > I get the same results.
> >
> > I am most likely going to move away from FreeBSD to Linux -
> > which is a shame, one less FreeBSD/Zope/Plone combination
> > running in the wild.  I know the iMeme guys have Plone running
> > but I have seen really freakish behavior there as well.  So I am
> > giving up.  If someone wants to hand hold me - I will try again
> > but in a few minutes I'm moving the Data.fs file to a linux box
> > and trying to get plone.org back up.
> >
> > Notes from my experience:
> > - chrism_installer_branch is *very very* nice - thanks ChrisM.
> >
> > - seemingly large file support is never turned on by default in
> > python tarballs.  I think this is a shame.  I dont know the reasons
> > but reading the posix large file page is very scary.  Zope Corp
> > should always enable large file support on all of their python
> > interpreters.
> >
> > - Its really depressing that Python/FreeBSD/Plone have this problem.
> > iirc yahoo.com runs lots of FreeBSD boxens running python for
> > some of their services.  but the fact that I have spent some 3 hours
> > trying to get all of this to work and Plone still causes python to
> > core dump is a huge shame.  CMF sites work fine.  Plone site crash.
> > I have never seen Plone crash on either win32 or linux.  This is
> > FreeBSD problem.
> >
> > please help make Zope/Python/*BSD work together gurus - your
> > our only hope.  I remember asking the python maintainer to up
> > the thread stack size in python2.1.2 and his response was something
> > like - if your requiring more than whats allocated you have serious
> > problems.
> >
> > ~runyaga
> >
> >
> >
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