[Zope-dev] possible compromise

[Chris Pelton]

Thanks for all the help - it was indeed Apache. The older relay messages 
did have the CONNECT verb in the logs, however the most recent ones 
simply used the formmail.pl which was readily available. Didn't mean to 
blame Zope for all of this - just the piece of the puzzle I understood 
the least.

Thanks again,
Chris



Tres Seaver wrote:

>On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 16:08, Chris Pelton wrote:
>  
>
>>Yes, that's what I'm thinking happened here, but I need to verify that 
>>was the case.  Are there any logs in zope that could help track this 
>>down, or a known configuration that would allow it to happen? Also, for 
>>future reference, can we disable this? Any ideas how someone might be 
>>able to tell Zope is running?
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>
>I believe that the scenario Robert is describing does not actually
>involve Zope at all;  rather, (in this scenario) Apache is willing to
>forward arbitrary traffic, via the 'CONNECT' verb.  Check your Apache
>access logs for the HTTP verb, 'CONNECT'.  Squid's default configs have
>specific settings to allow CONNECT only for HTTPS;  I'm guessing that
>your Apache config might need to be tweaked likewise.
>
>  
>
>>robert wrote:
>>
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>>>What I believe that happened in the case of the missuse of our servers is 
>>>something like.
>>>- On server A we have zope running behind Apache as a proxy.
>>>Somebody found this out in an unnown (to me) way.
>>>- Our c-net was scanned for a MTA and server B was found (which only accepts 
>>>mail from its own c-net
>>>- now the abuser sends http request to A requesting to forward to port 25 on  
>>>server B. Since these requests ar now from within B's own c-net, they are 
>>>accepted.
>>>
>>>Robert
>>>
>>>Am Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 21:51 schrieb Chris Pelton:
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>/ So, would anybody have any ideas how to determine if this might have
>>>>>>       
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>/>>/ been compromised? Or is there a known mail relay exploit through zope
>>>>/>>/ somehow? I've checked system binaries and everything seems fine. None
>>>>of />>/ the python files seem to have been changed since well before the
>>>>/>>/ relaying started.
>>>>/
>>>>
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>>>>>It might help to know the version of zope which you may be able to find
>>>>>it in the version.txt file distributed with zope releases.  That said,
>>>>>there hasn't been a known relay exploit to the best of my knowledge,
>>>>>but there are many ways to implement a web application that sends mail
>>>>>in zope, and it wouldn't be at all surprising if the implementation of
>>>>>your system was vulnerable.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you know enough about Zope to discuss the implementation of your
>>>>>web application?  We can throw out a bazillion ideas but thats a
>>>>>painfully slow way to determine what really happened.
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately I don't know much about zope. There are several version.txt
>>>>files in the tree -
>>>>
>>>>./lib/python/version.txt - yields Zope 2.2.5 (source release, python 1.5.2,
>>>>linux2)
>>>>
>>>>but there is also a Zope-2.3.3-src directory, although I don't find any
>>>>binaries in there that match what look to be the running binaries.
>>>>
>>>>The thing is, this machine had sendmail configure for no-relay, but there
>>>>were several virtual hosts in apache, and the mail was coming from one of
>>>>those hosts. I'm thinking they could have just taken advantage of some Zope
>>>>functionality, not necessarily a break-in?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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