[Zope.Com Geeks] Re: [Zope-dev] zope-dev list policies

[Ken Manheimer]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Andrew Sawyers wrote:

> Ken Manheimer wrote:
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>> What proportion of the list traffic comes from valid members who are 
>> posting from alternate accounts?
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> A huge percentage was - I don't know how much is making it through to the 
> lists though.  I'm hearing a lot of complaints from people either third 
> party, seeing it in IRC or from emails off the lists.
> 
> I've recently added an increased amount of header and body checks which were 
> not being applied yesterday as well as increased spam reject features.  This 
> should help - in any event now that it's being blocked at the MTA, Mailman's 
> load on the server has went from 2 -3 to ~.5 on the server in the last hour.
> Andrew

Huh?  I was specifically talking about the legitimate postings, "valid 
members who are posting from alternate accounts", sounds like you're 
talking about spam.

>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
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>>> Ken Manheimer wrote:
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>>>> I noticed this when it went initially went by, but didn't have time to 
>>>> follow up.  The upshot is that there is absolutely no way *under the 
>>>> current arrangement* that this is going to happen.  I can see a way to 
>>>> swing it, requiring earnest volunteer effort.  Here are the details.
>>>> 
>>>> Being the administrator of many of the zope lists (probably over ten and 
>>>> below twenty), i am already dismayed by the challenge of the typically 
>>>> thirty to one hundred held spam messages, bounces, and other effluvia i 
>>>> have to handle *per day*.  I do not know how many of the legitimate list 
>>>> messages would additionally be held and require more attention (with the 
>>>> current mailman implementation, it takes a lot more fuss to approve a 
>>>> held message than to discard it), but the load is already untenable, so 
>>>> one more is too many.
>>>> 
>>> Why would we hold non-member postings for review?  Why not simply outright 
>>> reject them?
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