[Zope-dev] Why is test.py silent by default

[Tres Seaver]

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Jim Fulton wrote:
> Tres Seaver wrote:
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>> The "default" usecase for running tests should be a developer making
>> changes and running tests.  In this case, "silent" mode is unhelpful;
>> it gives no feedback until the very end of the run, which takes a
>> **long** time for the whole Zope2 tree.  The "dots" provided at
>> verbosity level one are good feedback for the developer:  they provide a
>> clue about how many tests have run, and give some chance of deducing
>> that the tests have hung.
>>
>> Unless somebody has a compelling counter-argument, I will check in a
>> patch which makes verbosity level 1 ("dots") the default value.  People
>> who want quiet mode can always pass '-q'.
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> -1
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> I prefer not to get output unless there is a problem.  I'm happy to
> defer to others, but I personally prefer less output.

Hmm, maybe we need a 'testrunner.rc' file with personal-preference
options, then.  Assuming that the script looked for it in sensible
places (homedir, instance_home/etc, maybe?), I could live without
changing the default in the script.

> BTW, within the next week, I will be integrating the new test
> runner into z2 and z3.  So if people agree with you and we decide that
> the default verbosity level should be 1, then I'll do that when I
> integrate the new runner. (I guess I'll have to add a quiet option
> to cancel a default verbosity level.)

Having such an option is usual, for the cases when some other script is
driving your testrunner;  if '-q' cancels any previous '-v' (explicit or
default), then you can shut off unneeded output driven by the upstream
script.


Tres.
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