[Zope-dev] What from zope.app are you using

[Philipp von Weitershausen]

Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> That's why I want to make sure that we include as much of zope.app in
>> Zope 2. But I'm just one man so I tried to focus on current usage. I'm
>> sure we all want to use as much as possible from Zope 3 in our Zope 2
>> projects in the future, but we have to draw the line for this release.
>> The freeze is 3 weeks away.
>>
>> I'm aware that we might not get it all done for Zope 2.10. That's ok, we
>> can phase out Zope 2's zope.app usage over a longer time.
> 
> Okay, that's fine, as long as we're clear that zope.app will still be
> part of Zope 2.10.

In a realistic scenario that will still be the case. For example, I
don't see the zope.app.form beast dissected for this release.

>>> I'd therefore recommend an approach that includes as much of zope.app
>>> into Zope 2 as is possible, while leaving out the obvious bits that
>>> shouldn't be there, like Twisted.
>>
>> Then what's the point of zope.app at all? You're almost sounding like
>> you want to move everything in zope.* to zope.app.
> 
> Sorry, I was unclear. zope.app getting smaller good. Leaving zope.app
> out of Zope 2 in the next Zope 2 release, bad. There's a lot of stuff in
> zope.app that a lot of projects are using, and we may break stuff
> significantly if code is suddenly not there anymore.
> 
> [snip arguing against putting lots of stuff in zope.app]
> 
> I'm not arguing in favor of zope.app, I'm just arguing in favor of
> keeping zope.app included into Zope 2 releases for the time being, until
> we're a lot further with this process of moving things out of zope.app.

Agreed.

Thanks for your input.

Philipp