[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

Jim Fulton jim at zope.com
Thu Jan 19 10:43:55 EST 2006


Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Thursday 19 January 2006 07:00, Jim Fulton wrote:
> 
>> > I feel like an old record, but please
>>
>>
>>>let's keep the development process as simple as possible. I rather make
>>>some concessions to the packaging and dependency system than spending
>>>more time developing.
>>
>>Perhaps our goals are different. I want Zope's packages to be usable
>>outside of Zope.  I also want to make it easier to use external packages.
>>I think that a more package-centric development methodoligy will make
>>achieving these goals much easier.  I also think it will make Zope releases
>>go smoother because the scope of the release will be narrower.  Someday,
>>A Zope release will include an app-server specific core and a collection of
>>other package releases.  To the extend that those packages have their own
>>lifeccyles, and quality control, the amount of newly released code in a
>>Zope release wil be smaller.  A package-based approach will also make it
>>easier to release less. We'll be freed from a "batteries included"
>>mentality that encourages large high-risk releases. And it will make it
>>easier for people to make custom releases that have configurations targeted
>>to specific needs.
> 
> 
> I think we do have different goals here. I would agree with that approach, if 
> we would have a large community where small groups take over the maintenance 
> and development of a package. But that's not the case and it will not change 
> any time soon, I think.

I disagree.  There are sub-projects within The Zope tree that are worked on
by a few people.  Take viewlets for example.  I think we'll have more of this
once we have a more supportive environment.

Jim

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