[Zope-dev] paver and buildout

[Kevin Dangoor]

Hi,

So, I saw Martijn's "paver: buildout is utterly doomed" message on  
Tuesday, but I haven't had a chance to respond to it until now.

As Kent points out immediately following, I plan to use zc.buildout's  
machinery. I actively use zc.buildout now, and I'm looking forward to  
getting my buildout merged into my pavement.py.

I totally agree with Martijn that buildout needs a better website and  
I'm glad to see that Baiju is going forward with that.

Ultimately, though, I think that people will choose to use buildout  
alone or paver+buildout (or maybe paver+virtualenv, depending on their  
tastes) completely based on what fits their brains better.

I emailed a fair bit with Zed Shaw about his Vellum tool. He adamantly  
opposes having his builds defined in a full-blown language (ie  
Python), whereas for my needs I really want to define my builds in  
Python. But I want it to be easier to do than what you get with the  
Python standard library.

People who prefer to keep there build information in a "data" format  
will no doubt stick with buildout. I have no problem with that. My  
goal is just to share the workload with other people who have similar  
build and deployment problems to the ones I have.

Kevin