[Zope-dev] naming Zope

[Jim Fulton]

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:

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> Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
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>>> To stir things up: I would like to suggest renumbering the next  
>>> Zope 2
>>> release to Zope 4. That reflects the large refactoring that is being
>>> done to clean up the codebase and fully eggify Zope. There are  
>>> enough
>>> changes to warrant a new major version bump.
>>
>> -100 again. We need to stop confusing people!
>>
>> The only way we could do this would be if we definitely, 100%,
>> with-an-axe killed off any notion of Zope 3 as an app server or
>> application development framework and told everyone "the thing you  
>> need
>> to be using if you like Zope, is this Zope thing that's basically  
>> Zope
>> 2.14).

No.  It would only mean that there was one Zope application thing  
(pluggabel application platform ...)

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> We already have:  "Le roi est mort, vive le roi!" and all that.  Jim  
> has
> pronounced Zope3^H^H^H^HDecoy DOA.

No. I was only referring to the Zope 2 wanna-be application  
implemented with Zope 3.

I certainly think the components that such an application is made of,  
including application-server components have a long and happy life  
ahead of them.


>  Nobody is every going to care about
> Zope3-the-appserver, as opposed to "the-libraries-harvested-from- 
> Zope3"
> (at least, the folks who might care are a tiny minority for branding
> purposes).


I don't think the term "app server" is crisp. To me "app server" !=  
pluggable application.

Jim

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Jim Fulton
Zope Corporation