[Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

[Christophe Combelles]

Lennart Regebro a écrit :
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:37, Christophe Combelles <ccomb at free.fr> wrote:
>> Depending on setuptools for tests in another evil thing. We should not assume a
>> *setup* tool to be a testrunner, and we should not depend on the behaviour of
>> setuptools to write tests.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean there, setuptools doesn't behave in any
> particular way when running tests.

ok, not a lot, there is currently one single particular behaviour, which is 
adding tests from the result of the "additional_tests" function in a module.
That probably won't hurt.


> 
>> Setuptools is already doing too many things and Tarek
>> is taking care (with distutils2 and distribute) to cleany separate the
>> functionalities, such as installing, distributing, etc.
> 
> Yes, but that work is not done yet. And one thing that's needed to be
> able to run the tests under Python 3 is  building it. So it's hard to
> separate the building and the running of testsm as a Python 3 capable
> testrunner would need to run setup.py build first anyway. Which means
> you depends on setuptools/distribute whichever way you turn.
> 
>> Testing is not related to configuring nor installing, and "python setup.py test"
>> is no more meaningful than "python setup.py makethecoffee".
> 
> It might seem so, but it is unfortunately not true when considering Python 3.