[Zope-dev] shrinking the ZTK: a proposed solution

Jens Vagelpohl jens at dataflake.org
Tue Jan 5 08:11:31 EST 2010


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Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
> Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 23:10:05 schrieb Tres Seaver:
>> Martijn Faassen wrote:
>>> Obviously I cannot *force* ZTK
>>> maintainers to worry about this. Instead I'm appealing to your
>>> self-interest. And of course the transition burden is shared and should
>>> not fall solely or even predominantly on the ZTK maintainers.
>> My self-interest?  Not really:  you are appealing to my altruism, in the
>> fact that I care about the *broader* Zope community (broader than Zope2,
>> Grok, Plone, or whatever.  Neither of my chosen platforms (Zope2, bfg)
>> rely any longer on any of thsoe pacakages at all, which makes my direct
>> interest in them exactly zero.
> 
> If the ZTK is decoupled from other users, e.g. from people who rely on 
> zope.app, then they will simply not use it, or do a fork.
> 
> This way, ZTK users are lost, which also leads to a loss of supporters and 
> developers and results in a shrinking interest in ZTK, whose primary goal 
> was/is to be _the_ base for all other Zope-based applications.

How is that any different from people who won't use the ZTK because they
don't want to deal with any zope.app* baggage?

jens

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