[Zope-dev] Stop energy

[Jim Fulton]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Christian Theune <ct at gocept.com> wrote:
> Morning,
>
> On 03/02/2010 07:09 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>>  > Chris McDonough suggests to ponder further structuring of the ZTK into
>>  > separate sub-sets which might allow us to get better mileage regarding
>>  > maintenance and release management. He gave the example of the
>>  > "Bicycle Toolkit" (zope.component, zope.configuration,
>>  > zope.interface).
>>
>> -1
>
> Uhh. -1 for what? -1 for pondering *something*? The note I took was a
> request for thinking about something. No *I'm* confused about stop energy.

Oh come on. No, it's not -1 to pondering something. It's -1 to the
idea of "splitting the ZTK into separate sub-sets which might allow us
to get better mileage regarding maintenance and release management."

I suppose Martijn should have said something like: "I'm thinking of
disagreeing with that idea."

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Marius Gedminas <marius at gedmin.as> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 10:06:18AM +0100, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch 03 M�rz 2010 01:28:21 schrieb Chris McDonough:
>> > On 3/2/10 2:50 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Chris McDonough<chrism at plope.com>  wrote:
>> > >> On 3/2/10 1:09 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> > >>> Hi there,
>> > >>>
>> > >>>   >  Chris McDonough suggests to ponder further structuring of the ZTK
>> > >>>   > into separate sub-sets which might allow us to get better mileage
>> > >>>   > regarding maintenance and release management. He gave the example
>> > >>>   > of the "Bicycle Toolkit" (zope.component, zope.configuration,
>> > >>>   >  zope.interface).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -1
>> > >>
>> > >> I don't know who "people" are, and I don't know who "they" are, and I
>> > >> don't know who broke what.
>> > >
>> > > No one should have to extract anything from the ZTK, because, AFAIK,
>> > > the ZTK isn't a distribution.
>> >
>> > You've both successfully beaten any initiative out of me again.  Well done.
>> > Full speed ahead.
>>
>> Hmmm, interesting:

...

>> As anyone can see, "worker_thread" is not started often, which is not optimal.
>> How could this be improved?
>
> More positive feedback, less negative feedback.

I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Does Martijn and me
disagreeing with an idea constitute negative feedback?  Is
disagreement not allowed? If so, that doesn't leave much room for
discussion.  Or is Chris' characterization of my disagreement with him
as "beating" negative feedback. This seems more appropriate to me, but
I'm not sure what you mean.

Jim

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Jim Fulton