[Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ minutes of ztk releaseteam meeting 11/09

[Tres Seaver]

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On 11/19/2010 03:20 AM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
> On 11/18/10 16:50 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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>> On 11/18/2010 05:19 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>> On 11/18/10 11:16 , Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
>>>> +The ZTK would like to use distribute by default.
>>
>>> Is the distribute project still alive? The reason I ask is that my
>>> recent experience is that bugs reported in setuptools are fixed very
>>> quickly, while there is no response from the distribute team.
>>
>> It does look as though development velocity on 'distribute' has slowed
>> to a pace quite comparable to setuptools, with setuptools having the
>> more recent release.  The two trackers are at:
>>
>>   http://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/issues?status=open&status=new&kind=bug&sort=id
>>
>>   http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/
>>
>> The bitbucket UI doesn't show recency of issue activity, which would
>> make the two easier to compare.
>>
>> I'm -1 on preferring 'distribute' in any overt way in the ZTK.  Folks
>> who want it can already use it when bootstrapping a buildout::
> 
> I'll make sure this is put back on the ztk release team agenda.
> 
> Note though that there was no intention to introduce "creeping" 
> dependencies on distribute other than preferring it over setuptools. I 
> guess we had the idea distribute was still all the rage.
> 
> The Grok project also got a few reports of strange, hard to reproduce 
> installation problems (shutil not importable in some weird way for 
> example), when people were using setuptools (in combination with a 
> virtualenv, and zc.buildout 1.5.2) that were gone when they tried with 
> the distribute option.

AFAIK, zc.buildout >= 1.5 is still flaky when used with a virtualenv,
which saddens me:  it damaged a feature I frequently used (virtualenv
compatibilty) in order to pursue one I strongly dislike (use with a
system python).


Tres.
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