[Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

[Christian Theune]

On 11/16/2011 02:06 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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> On 11/16/2011 07:28 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark
>> <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>  wrote:
>>> Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro
>>> <regebro at gmail.com>:
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>>>> Right. Could we standardize on skins or browserlayers plz? Having
>>>> both confuses the heck out of me.
>>>
>>> Definitely a topic that needs (re)-opening. From a CMF point of I
>>> think we're just about at the point where we could switch to browser
>>> layers, well, at least once CMF 2.3 has been released. But I think
>>> that CMF Skins still offer some functionality that you don't get
>>> with browser layers out of the box.
>>
>> When I said skins I meant ++skins++. CMF Skins must die.
>
> Note that for all their warts, they are *massively* more successful than
> the Z3 reimplementation, which was overengineered (I helped with that,
> I'm sure).  In particular, the exceesive amount of ZCA majyk makes
> complicaterd uses of the Z3 skins very fragile (easy to misconfigure,
> hard to discover what you broke).

But they also have their merits. If I could make a wish, I'd like to see 
a shared implementation that marries all the benefits. :)

Something I love a lot is the ++skin++ traverser for example. I also 
like the idea of "tagging" the Request object with structured 
information (an interface) to indicate specialisation.

I hate that I have to spell the layer in each ZCML statement.

Just my 0.02,
Christian

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