[Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

[Tres Seaver]

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On 11/17/2011 02:05 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote:
> On 17 November 2011 15:23, Martin Aspeli <optilude+lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 17 November 2011 14:46, Laurence Rowe <l at lrowe.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>>> - Move authentication out to WSGI middleware.
>> 
>> +1 - anything we can do to make AccessControl simpler and more 
>> debuggable would be a big win.


Note that there is a counter-trend here among the Pyramid crew:  many
developers *want* tight integration of authentication, particularly the
login forms.


>>> Long term ---------
>>> 
>>> - Move to WebOb as our request object. The wider Python web
>>> framework community seems to have settled on WebOb as their
>>> request object of choice, so to facilitate sharing of software
>>> components with other projects we should consider making WebOb our
>>> request object too (instead of just wrapping it). This will
>>> require buy-in from the wider ZTK community as the ZTK components
>>> will need
>> 
>> +1


BBB concerns are likely going to keep us from replacing the request
entirely.  What really matters for re-use is that our requests provide
the same commonly-used subset of the WebOb request API.


>>> - Move to Python 3.
>> 
>> +0
> 
> I expect this will only become important several years down the line, 
> but the more we use other people's code who have already ported to 
> Python 3, the less code we will have to port ourselves.


FWIW, the port to Python3 of substantial existing web framework code is
already a dubious proposition:  nearly everybody doing it these days is
suffering pain (making their own code more complicated by straddling) in
order to gain hypothetical future benefits.

I would leave it off the roadmap completely until that landscape changes
substantially.



Tres.
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