[ZWeb] irc meet?

[Adrian Hungate]

1800 UTC is unlikely to ever work for me (Long commute), is 1700 or 1900
possible?

Adrian...

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----- Original Message -----
From: "seb bacon" <seb@jamkit.com>
To: "paul" <paul@zope.com>
Cc: <zope-web@zope.org>; <runyaga@runyaga.com>; <mattb@zope.com>;
<noron@alum.mit.edu>; <c.duncan@nlada.org>; <zope@toenjes.com>;
<klm@zope.com>; <zopist@hotmail.com>; <maxm@mxm.dk>;
<willem@pastelhorn.com>; <tseaver@zope.com>; <mj@zope.com>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ZWeb] irc meet?


> Yes, that was the gist of my post :-)
>
> OK, here's some things to discuss tomorrow, for those who are interested
> in the ZopeOrgReorg.
>
> I mentioned sorting out some kind of process for us to stick to.  I'm
> still very keen on this, especially since we are going to have to
> distribute tasks among a large number of people.
>
> The first steps IMO should be
>
>  - requirements (aims of site, audience, success criteria)
>  - functional spec (use cases, etc)
>  - information architecture (usability...)
>  - design
>
> once we've got some agreement on these first steps, we should assign
> some roles.
>
> I'm still not clear about the ZC involvement in this.  Martijn, you seem
> to (have) be(en) in charge of the new.zope.org effort?  Paul, you
> mentioned Penny and Lois?  It would be good to be clear about the
> history and personnel involved from ZC in the effort so far.
>
> I've cc'd people who appear to be interested in the early, pre-build
> phases (judging from the contributor list).  Anyone else, please come
> along 1800 UTC tomorrow too.
>
> seb
>
> On Mon, 2001-12-10 at 17:01, paul wrote:
> >
> > I agree with what I think is the gist of your post.  Namely, the last
> > week has produced 500 suggestions on the top priority.  What's now
> > needed are individual efforts to start accomplishing things.
> >
> > An IRC chat to debate about the list of 500 priorities will give a low
> > ROI.  Instead, it's time to shift into "put up or shut up" mode. :^)
> > Namely, if someone wants to organize an effort, propose an IRC
> > appointment on that effort.
> >
> > Thus, I'm happy to see Seb's proposal for a focused IRC chat.  And I'm
> > willing to participate and contribute on that topic.  I also hope that
> > others will propose and shepherd other topics.
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> > seb bacon wrote:
> >
> > > Paul's reminded me that I had suggested a irc chat today.  I'm
thinking
> > > of tomorrow since I've failed to be organised about today.
> > >
> > > I feel the principles that Paul set out previously were good:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I propose that anybody proposing an item needs to agree to be the
> > >>shepherd for that item.  Being a shepherd needs to be some work:
> > >>
> > >> o Write up a quick proposal and put it in the wiki
> > >>
> > >> o Setup an IRC appointment
> > >>
> > >> o Put a log of the IRC session in the Wiki
> > >>
> > >> o Report back to us on what's planned to be done
> > >>
> > >
> > > I want to try and push forward ZopeOrgReorg.  For now, this means
*not*
> > > taking on the fishbowl or product sections.  I'm thinking more about
> > > getting a new skin, finalising use cases, and sorting out a really
good
> > > information architecture.
> > >
> > > How do people feel about this?  I'm worried I didn't remind enough
> > > people enough in advance, so I'd probably rather put it off till
> > > tomorrow, 1800 UTC.  I'll write up some kind of agenda, and circulate
> > > for discussion tomorrow.  Please let me know if you can make it, so I
> > > can get a feel for if I need to announce this a bit louder.
> > >
> > > I'll go hang out on openprojects anyway in a minute...
> > >
> > > seb
>
>
>
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