From amos@digicool.com Mon Jun 4 19:59:03 2001 From: amos@digicool.com (Amos Latteier) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:59:03 -0700 Subject: [ZWeb] FTP to ftp.zope.org refused Message-ID: <3B1BDA77.9FFB5AA7@digicool.com> I'm getting connection refused when I attempt to FTP to ftp.zope.org -Amos -- Amos Latteier mailto:amos@digicool.com Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com From cookiebyrne@hotmail.com Thu Jun 7 11:51:48 2001 From: cookiebyrne@hotmail.com (michael cook) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:51:48 +0100 Subject: [ZWeb] thesis on zope Message-ID:

I am currently about to undertake a thesis on zope. At the moment i am only on the research stage so if anyone has any information about zope or anything that might help me i would very much appreciate this,

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From erik@thingamy.net Thu Jun 7 17:03:43 2001 From: erik@thingamy.net (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:03:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [ZWeb] thesis on zope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, michael cook wrote: > I am currently about to undertake a thesis on zope. At the moment i > am only on the research stage so if anyone has any information about > zope or anything that might help me i would very much appreciate this, Tons of people av information about zope or anything that might help you. What exactly is the scope of the thesis? Can you give any specific area you would like information on? From davelehman@loewen.com Mon Jun 11 15:24:57 2001 From: davelehman@loewen.com (davelehman@loewen.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:24:57 -0500 Subject: [ZWeb] Colorguide update Message-ID: Further to Marc Bowery's CMF color guide (06/09 ZWN): I thought this was a great idea, but also thought it could be "spiffed-up" a bit. Someone made a newsgroup comment the other day that the Zope community needs to start doing things in a more professional manner if they want the Zope platform to get in to the mainstream. So here's my contribution to that vision! A re-done, "more professional" version of Marc's great color chart can be found at: http://cmf.zope.org/Members/grifter70000/color_guide. --grifter From charlie@blanchardsite.com Mon Jun 11 15:52:57 2001 From: charlie@blanchardsite.com (Charlie Blanchard) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:52:57 -0700 Subject: [ZWeb] Colorguide update In-Reply-To: ; from davelehman@loewen.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:24:57AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010611075257.C539@blanchardsite.com> very nice! suggest you print the source link in your credit line as you've done crediting marc's version. you never know where the image will end up, and it's nice for end users to be able to come back to the 'source' for updates easily... On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:24:57AM -0500, davelehman@loewen.com wrote: > Further to Marc Bowery's CMF color guide (06/09 ZWN): > > I thought this was a great idea, but also thought it could be "spiffed-up" > a bit. Someone made a newsgroup comment the other day that the Zope > community needs to start doing things in a more professional manner if they > want the Zope platform to get in to the mainstream. So here's my > contribution to that vision! > > A re-done, "more professional" version of Marc's great color chart can be > found at: > http://cmf.zope.org/Members/grifter70000/color_guide. > > --grifter -- charlie blanchard http://baldguru.com/ LosAngeles area Zope Users Group http://lazug.org From mindlace@digicool.com Sun Jun 17 21:40:55 2001 From: mindlace@digicool.com (ethan mindlace fremen) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:40:55 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] How does zope.org cope with large Data.fs. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14280000.992810455@orlog> --On 05/31/01 18:13:02 +0200 Erik Enge chiseled: > Hi, > > I was wondering, how have you guys sorted it with a Data.fs over 2GB (I > seem to remember you hit that barrier some time ago, and that you run > Linux)? How did you solve it? Sorry for the big delay -- Baymountain largely solved this for us, but it involves running a kernel >= 2.4.0 and using properly compiled libraries. I believe baymountain got the appropriate libraries in RPM format from the beowulf project. Hope that helps, -- -mindlace- zopatista community liason From andym@ActiveState.com Mon Jun 18 19:19:44 2001 From: andym@ActiveState.com (Andy McKay) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:19:44 -0700 Subject: [ZWeb] Fishbowl Wiki Message-ID: <002101c0f823$416e10d0$ae03a8c0@activestate.com> Are the Wiki's used for the fishbowl available anywhere? We are particularly interested in the pagehistory which standard wiki's dont seem to have (Version 0.9.3) We could throw a history together, but.... Cheers. -- Andy McKay. From klm@digicool.com Mon Jun 18 20:44:24 2001 From: klm@digicool.com (Ken Manheimer) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ZWeb] Fishbowl Wiki In-Reply-To: <002101c0f823$416e10d0$ae03a8c0@activestate.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Andy McKay wrote: > Are the Wiki's used for the fishbowl available anywhere? We are particularly > interested in the pagehistory which standard wiki's dont seem to have > (Version 0.9.3) > > We could throw a history together, but.... See http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/WikiForNow - the WFNArtifacts section has a tarball of the product. You might also be interested in a recently developed CMF-ized version of WikiForNow: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ZopeOrgCollaborationEnhancement/CMFWiki Ken klm@digicool.com From andym@ActiveState.com Mon Jun 18 20:56:26 2001 From: andym@ActiveState.com (Andy McKay) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:56:26 -0700 Subject: [ZWeb] Fishbowl Wiki References: Message-ID: <00eb01c0f830$f345f220$ae03a8c0@activestate.com> Thanks Ken. -- Andy McKay. From simon@joyful.com Tue Jun 19 02:32:44 2001 From: simon@joyful.com (Simon Michael) Date: 18 Jun 2001 18:32:44 -0700 Subject: [ZWeb] Fishbowl Wiki In-Reply-To: <002101c0f823$416e10d0$ae03a8c0@activestate.com> ("Andy McKay"'s message of "Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:19:44 -0700") References: <002101c0f823$416e10d0$ae03a8c0@activestate.com> Message-ID: <878zipgsoz.fsf@joyful.com> "Andy McKay" writes: > particularly interested in the pagehistory which standard wiki's dont > seem to have (Version 0.9.3) Hi Andy - page history should require only a suitably up-to-date zope version, and a suitable link to .../manage_change_history_page in your wiki header or footer. -Simon From python-te@mcwords.com Fri Jun 22 12:53:19 2001 From: python-te@mcwords.com (Martin C Brown) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:53:19 +0100 Subject: [ZWeb] Zope Users Message-ID: Is there any reasonable information out there on the number of Zope users? I know there's a great list of users on the Zope website in the resources section, but what I need is hard and fast numbers to include as part of a proposal for a new web project. TIA MC -- Martin 'MC' Brown, mc@mcwords.com http://www.mcwords.com Writer, Author, Consultant 'Life is pain, anyone who says differently is selling something' From donald.braman@yale.edu Fri Jun 22 17:16:42 2001 From: donald.braman@yale.edu (Donald Braman) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:16:42 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] RE: Zope-web digest, Vol 1 #200 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be ablet (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don Donald Braman donald.braman@yale.edu Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:53:19 +0100 From: Martin C Brown To: Subject: [ZWeb] Zope Users Is there any reasonable information out there on the number of Zope users? I know there's a great list of users on the Zope website in the resources section, but what I need is hard and fast numbers to include as part of a proposal for a new web project. TIA MC -- Martin 'MC' Brown, mc@mcwords.com http://www.mcwords.com Writer, Author, Consultant 'Life is pain, anyone who says differently is selling something' From shane@digicool.com Sat Jun 23 03:35:25 2001 From: shane@digicool.com (Shane Hathaway) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:35:25 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] RE: Zope users References: Message-ID: <3B34006D.8EB4476F@digicool.com> Donald Braman wrote: > > This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be ablet > (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that > sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email > them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some > optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the > folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don Or maybe do what Pine (an email client) does: the first time you use it, it asks you if you would like to send an anonymous email to the Pine development team at the University of Washington in Seattle, just so the developers can get a general idea of how many people are using it. Shane From donald.braman@yale.edu Sat Jun 23 20:22:06 2001 From: donald.braman@yale.edu (Donald Braman) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:22:06 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] optional registration/info during install In-Reply-To: <3B34006D.8EB4476F@digicool.com> Message-ID: That sounds good, too. How does the pine system work? Can it send system data (OS, version, etc.) and can it identify repeat emails from the same users (say, if someone reinstalls)? If the pine model is really bare bones, perhaps user's could choose between three options: (1) don't send anything to zope.org; (2) send an anonymous email identifying the version of Zope used; (3) register with Zope.org through a web-based form at zope.org or an emailable form. Don ps. How do the developers evaluate an idea (feature request) like this? Poll current users? Post to zope@zope.org? -----Original Message----- From: shane@localhost.localdomain [mailto:shane@localhost.localdomain]On Behalf Of Shane Hathaway Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:35 PM To: Donald Braman Subject: Re: [ZWeb] RE: Zope users Donald Braman wrote: > > This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be able > (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that > sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email > them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some > optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the > folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don Or maybe do what Pine (an email client) does: the first time you use it, it asks you if you would like to send an anonymous email to the Pine development team at the University of Washington in Seattle, just so the developers can get a general idea of how many people are using it. Shane From shane@digicool.com Sat Jun 23 22:32:41 2001 From: shane@digicool.com (Shane Hathaway) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Donald Braman wrote: > That sounds good, too. How does the pine system work? Can it send system > data (OS, version, etc.) and can it identify repeat emails from the same > users (say, if someone reinstalls)? If the pine model is really bare bones, > perhaps user's could choose between three options: (1) don't send anything > to zope.org; (2) send an anonymous email identifying the version of Zope > used; (3) register with Zope.org through a web-based form at zope.org or an > emailable form. > > Don > > ps. How do the developers evaluate an idea (feature request) like this? Poll > current users? Post to zope@zope.org? Yikes! On second thought, if we suggested anything like this using a poll, a lot of people would come unglued. The idea works for Pine because Pine is maintained by a bunch of volunteers. It would be a disaster for Zope, being maintained by a for-profit company. Sorry I suggested it. Shane > -----Original Message----- > From: shane@localhost.localdomain [mailto:shane@localhost.localdomain]On > Behalf Of Shane Hathaway > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:35 PM > To: Donald Braman > Subject: Re: [ZWeb] RE: Zope users > > > Donald Braman wrote: > > > > This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be able > > (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that > > sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email > > them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some > > optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the > > folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don > > Or maybe do what Pine (an email client) does: the first time you use it, > it asks you if you would like to send an anonymous email to the Pine > development team at the University of Washington in Seattle, just so the > developers can get a general idea of how many people are using it. > > Shane > From paul@digicool.com Sat Jun 23 23:23:16 2001 From: paul@digicool.com (Paul Everitt) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:23:16 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install References: Message-ID: <3B3516D4.C082D85D@digicool.com> Howdy folks. I've been mulling over an idea that I think might fly with privacy people, provide real value for end users, and real value for zope.org's goal of estimating the size of the zope universe. Imagine if the future of Zope downloads was to get the basics of the binary setup for your platform. The first login provided a configuration screen that asked for a couple of things: 1) The login name for your Zope.org account. 2) The "name" of the site that you're configuring and an optional description. Clicking "Next" connects to your Zope.org member folder, and creates a new "site" in a "sites" folder. The user gets back a page that shows all the updates and new packages available for install. You might also be given an option to download documentation updates. Of course this presumes that, in the future, Zope is able to do "ZSync" types of operations on Zope products. But presuming that, I think this would give a pretty seriously attractive reason to use the facility. We could increase the value by giving people the option to be emailed when the packages they were using were updated. The only thing that would be "centralized" is the label that you chose for your site and the packages/revisions that you installed. And tying it to your zope.org membership simply ties it to a system of privacy that people are already used to. Thoughts? --Paul Shane Hathaway wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Donald Braman wrote: > > > That sounds good, too. How does the pine system work? Can it send system > > data (OS, version, etc.) and can it identify repeat emails from the same > > users (say, if someone reinstalls)? If the pine model is really bare bones, > > perhaps user's could choose between three options: (1) don't send anything > > to zope.org; (2) send an anonymous email identifying the version of Zope > > used; (3) register with Zope.org through a web-based form at zope.org or an > > emailable form. > > > > Don > > > > ps. How do the developers evaluate an idea (feature request) like this? Poll > > current users? Post to zope@zope.org? > > Yikes! On second thought, if we suggested anything like this using a > poll, a lot of people would come unglued. The idea works for Pine because > Pine is maintained by a bunch of volunteers. It would be a disaster for > Zope, being maintained by a for-profit company. Sorry I suggested it. > > Shane > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: shane@localhost.localdomain [mailto:shane@localhost.localdomain]On > > Behalf Of Shane Hathaway > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:35 PM > > To: Donald Braman > > Subject: Re: [ZWeb] RE: Zope users > > > > > > Donald Braman wrote: > > > > > > This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be able > > > (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that > > > sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email > > > them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some > > > optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the > > > folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don > > > > Or maybe do what Pine (an email client) does: the first time you use it, > > it asks you if you would like to send an anonymous email to the Pine > > development team at the University of Washington in Seattle, just so the > > developers can get a general idea of how many people are using it. > > > > Shane > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web From klm@digicool.com Mon Jun 25 02:36:26 2001 From: klm@digicool.com (Ken Manheimer) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ZWeb] I think one of the CMF app servers has been down all afternoon Message-ID: I've been getting something like a 50% failure rate trying to edit some documents in the dogbowl - it looks like one of the app servers has been down. I heard mutterings during last week that the app server needed to be restarted - is this a chronic problem? Ken klm@digicool.com From andym@ActiveState.com Mon Jun 25 17:22:31 2001 From: andym@ActiveState.com (Andy McKay) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:22:31 -0700 Subject: [ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install References: <3B3516D4.C082D85D@digicool.com> Message-ID: <007c01c0fd93$2bd45750$ae03a8c0@activestate.com> These things are a two way street, if you dont provide some value to both parties it gets ignored and or makes people unhappy. Logging in to Zope.org to download Zope doesnt appeal, it would add a barrier into the download and doesnt provide a lot of value to me. Perhaps there are more options you can add to that... Now if I could upload a configuration of my Zope, its products and such to Zope.org and get notified when things get changed and synced down new products (you know thats my hobby horse) you will get a lot of interest. Plus you will get more relevant stats. This then gives you lots of nice numbers from how many people download Zope, to how many use it, what products people use a lot and so on. Just be careful to anonymize those numbers of course. BTW you of course keep careful track to all the referers to www.zope.org, www.zope.org/Credits (going to update those credits?) (from the Zope attribution button) :) Cheers. -- Andy McKay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Everitt" To: "Donald Braman" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install > > Howdy folks. I've been mulling over an idea that I think might fly with > privacy people, provide real value for end users, and real value for > zope.org's goal of estimating the size of the zope universe. > > Imagine if the future of Zope downloads was to get the basics of the > binary setup for your platform. The first login provided a > configuration screen that asked for a couple of things: > > 1) The login name for your Zope.org account. > > 2) The "name" of the site that you're configuring and an optional > description. > > Clicking "Next" connects to your Zope.org member folder, and creates a > new "site" in a "sites" folder. The user gets back a page that shows > all the updates and new packages available for install. You might also > be given an option to download documentation updates. > > Of course this presumes that, in the future, Zope is able to do "ZSync" > types of operations on Zope products. But presuming that, I think this > would give a pretty seriously attractive reason to use the facility. We > could increase the value by giving people the option to be emailed when > the packages they were using were updated. > > The only thing that would be "centralized" is the label that you chose > for your site and the packages/revisions that you installed. And tying > it to your zope.org membership simply ties it to a system of privacy > that people are already used to. > > Thoughts? > > --Paul > > Shane Hathaway wrote: > > > > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Donald Braman wrote: > > > > > That sounds good, too. How does the pine system work? Can it send system > > > data (OS, version, etc.) and can it identify repeat emails from the same > > > users (say, if someone reinstalls)? If the pine model is really bare bones, > > > perhaps user's could choose between three options: (1) don't send anything > > > to zope.org; (2) send an anonymous email identifying the version of Zope > > > used; (3) register with Zope.org through a web-based form at zope.org or an > > > emailable form. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > ps. How do the developers evaluate an idea (feature request) like this? Poll > > > current users? Post to zope@zope.org? > > > > Yikes! On second thought, if we suggested anything like this using a > > poll, a lot of people would come unglued. The idea works for Pine because > > Pine is maintained by a bunch of volunteers. It would be a disaster for > > Zope, being maintained by a for-profit company. Sorry I suggested it. > > > > Shane > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: shane@localhost.localdomain [mailto:shane@localhost.localdomain]On > > > Behalf Of Shane Hathaway > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:35 PM > > > To: Donald Braman > > > Subject: Re: [ZWeb] RE: Zope users > > > > > > > > > Donald Braman wrote: > > > > > > > > This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be able > > > > (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that > > > > sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email > > > > them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some > > > > optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the > > > > folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don > > > > > > Or maybe do what Pine (an email client) does: the first time you use it, > > > it asks you if you would like to send an anonymous email to the Pine > > > development team at the University of Washington in Seattle, just so the > > > developers can get a general idea of how many people are using it. > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web > From klm@digicool.com Mon Jun 25 18:40:13 2001 From: klm@digicool.com (Ken Manheimer) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ZWeb] I think one of the CMF app servers has been down all afternoon In-Reply-To: <001401c0fd4e$51977250$109ff9d0@enfer.netcasting.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > I restarted them; they appear to be back up and working properly. > Andrew I have the impression this has been happening frequently, lately. Whoever's the contact person for the CMF servers (ethan?), i'm curious what's going on - is some investigation warranted? Ken klm@digicool.com From andrew@digicool.com Mon Jun 25 19:56:56 2001 From: andrew@digicool.com (Andrew Sawyers) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:56:56 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] I think one of the CMF app servers has been down all afternoon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, I assume it funnels through Ethan, then possibly off to whomever is the support channel; I dunno. Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Manheimer [mailto:klm@digicool.com] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:40 PM > To: Andrew Sawyers > Cc: zope-web@zope.org > Subject: Re: [ZWeb] I think one of the CMF app servers has been down all > afternoon > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > > I restarted them; they appear to be back up and working properly. > > Andrew > > I have the impression this has been happening frequently, lately. > Whoever's the contact person for the CMF servers (ethan?), i'm curious > what's going on - is some investigation warranted? > > Ken > klm@digicool.com > > From donald.braman@yale.edu Tue Jun 26 21:40:34 2001 From: donald.braman@yale.edu (Donald Braman) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:40:34 -0500 Subject: [ZWeb] Re: Zope-web digest, Vol 1 #204 - 4 msgs Message-ID: <993584434.webexpressdV3.1.f@mail.yale.edu> From: "Andy McKay" Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install These things are a two way street, if you dont provide some value to both parties it gets ignored and or makes people unhappy. Logging in to Zope.org to download Zope doesnt appeal, it would add a barrier into the download and doesnt provide a lot of value to me. Perhaps there are more options you can add to that... ********** I think that if you offer people options, most will provide a fair amount of information. Of course, the greater degree of automation, the greater response rate you'll get. Maybe something like this (but obviously better worded) during installation would suffice: [ ] Send information about my installation to Zope.org and inform me about product updates and patches.* [ ] Send information about my installation to Zope.org, but DON'T send me information about product updates and patches.* [ ] DON'T send any information to Zope.org * Any information sent to Zope.org will only be used to help generate anonymous statistics about the number and types of Zope installations out there. If you want to see the information that would be sent to Zope.org, click here. If the person selected the first option, they would enter an email address as well. Cheerios, Don Donald Braman donald.braman@yale.edu From donald.braman@yale.edu Tue Jun 26 21:40:57 2001 From: donald.braman@yale.edu (Donald Braman) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:40:57 -0500 Subject: [ZWeb] optional registration/info during install Message-ID: <993584457.webexpressdV3.1.f@mail.yale.edu> From: "Andy McKay" Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install These things are a two way street, if you dont provide some value to both parties it gets ignored and or makes people unhappy. Logging in to Zope.org to download Zope doesnt appeal, it would add a barrier into the download and doesnt provide a lot of value to me. Perhaps there are more options you can add to that... ********** I think that if you offer people options, most will provide a fair amount of information. Of course, the greater degree of automation, the greater response rate you'll get. Maybe something like this (but obviously better worded) during installation would suffice: [ ] Send information about my installation to Zope.org and inform me about product updates and patches.* [ ] Send information about my installation to Zope.org, but DON'T send me information about product updates and patches.* [ ] DON'T send any information to Zope.org * Any information sent to Zope.org will only be used to help generate anonymous statistics about the number and types of Zope installations out there. If you want to see the information that would be sent to Zope.org, click here. If the person selected the first option, they would enter an email address as well. Cheerios, Don Donald Braman donald.braman@yale.edu From Joe.Gaffey@gradient.ie Thu Jun 28 09:49:12 2001 From: Joe.Gaffey@gradient.ie (Joe Gaffey) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:49:12 +0100 Subject: [ZWeb] viewing newsgroups Message-ID: Hi, I am trying to use a web front end to view already existing newsgroups on an nntp server. I was wondering if there are any zope products out there that will do this for me. I do not need it to act as a mail server or anything like this. I had a quick look at zopeGUM but this seems to be saying that it *will* provide something that may do this for me. Any help/suggestions would be appreciated. PS - is this the correct/best place to ask this question? Thanks, Joe. Joe Gaffey Software Developer Gradient - a Sabre Company Ormonde House Tel: + 353 1 2400 500 12 Lower Leeson Street Fax: + 353 1 2400 501 Dublin 2 Email: joe.gaffey@gradient.ie Ireland Web: www.gradient.ie www.sabre.com From mindlace@digicool.com Thu Jun 28 21:13:56 2001 From: mindlace@digicool.com (ethan mindlace fremen) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:13:56 -0400 Subject: [ZWeb] viewing newsgroups References: Message-ID: <3B3B9004.8000708@digicool.com> Joe Gaffey wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to use a web front end to view already existing newsgroups on an > nntp server. I was wondering if there are > any zope products out there that will do this for me. I don't think so, but I'm not certain. > PS - is this the correct/best place to ask this question? A better place is the zope list: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope hope that helps, ~ethan