[ZWeb] "NZO box" on front page

Andrew Sawyers andrew at zope.com
Fri Aug 20 12:49:14 EDT 2004


Our postfix is fast and fine; it's that messages are not even being 
delivered to postfix from mailman due to the observations I described in 
my previous message.  I suppose we won't argue semantics - Lets just 
say, mailman is flakey  :)
In any case, when we had experienced all the problems with the 
comingling of m.z.o and m.p.o I sent a bunch of emails to postmaster at p.o 
  - to no avail.  Our best hope is someone knows mailman on high volume 
sites better then Jens or I.

It could be even corruption with a single list as far as I know; I just 
don't know and have little time to spelunk m.z.o   We spent several 
hours and are certain the problem is in qfiles/out    -  I'll see if I 
can look into single mta deliveries so that groups aren't possibly being 
tossed due to a single recipient failure, as I'm guessing that might be 
what could be happening.  I'm not even certain who manages the lists; 
but it would sure help if that individual or individuals could assist.

Andrew

Tim Peters wrote:

> [Andrew Sawyers]
> 
>>mail.zope.org is not exactly "flakey" -- 
> 
> 
> Well, I'm not sure what else to call posts showing up in a list archive that
> aren't received by the list subscribers, or posts just vanishing (which also
> occurs -- not in the archives, no bounce msgs, just gone).  "Plain broken"
> seems too strong for that, provided it's rare.
> 
> A consequence of the m.p.o/m.z.o split is that it seems the volunteers with
> major Mailman expertise ended up attached to m.p.o.  m.p.o is fast and
> reliable now.  FYI, I'll attach its email stats for yesterday.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know anything about running Mailman.  Maybe sending
> the symptoms you're seeing to postmaster at python.org could get some good
> advice?  Very high loads sounds like the same symptom the combined m.[pz].o
> had up until the moment of the final divorce; m.p.o doesn't have that
> problem anymore, so they must have done *something* to cure it.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject:
> [Pydotorg] Postfix log summaries for Aug 19
> From:
> <brad.knowles at skynet.be>
> Date:
> Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:04:05 -0400
> To:
> <pydotorg at python.org>
> 
> To:
> <pydotorg at python.org>
> 
> 
> Postfix log summaries for Aug 19
> 
> Grand Totals
> ------------
> messages
> 
>  306082   received
>  319732   delivered
>     162   forwarded
>    1965   deferred  (2726  deferrals)
>     127   bounced
>  258388   rejected (44%)
>     842   reject warnings
>       0   held
>       0   discarded (0%)
> 
>    1047m  bytes received
>    1377m  bytes delivered
>     485   senders
>     384   sending hosts/domains
>    6720   recipients
>    4284   recipient hosts/domains
> 
> smtpd
> 
>   335090   connections
>    12194   hosts/domains
>        6   avg. connect time (seconds)
>  540:42:31  total connect time
> 
> 
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> ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-53-172.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr
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>     1083       26:05:19         87s       227s   165.139.84.1
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> AMontsouris-151-1-47-144.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr
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> ANantes-252-1-5-7.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr
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> AAubervilliers-152-1-4-47.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr
>      771        0:18:29          1s         4s   
> AAubervilliers-152-1-11-92.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr
>      750        6:21:44         31s       331s   smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl
> 
> top 50 Senders by message count
> -------------------------------
>  222814   python at python.org
>   16156   none at bag.python.org
>    3257   mailman at python.org
>    2256   tutor at python.org
>    1307   web at python.org
>     738   spambayes at python.org
>     584   pythonmac at python.org
>     300   db at python.org
>     179   pythonce at python.org
>     158   patches at python.org
>      51   pydotorg at python.org
>      50   noreply at sourceforge.net
>      41   noreply at python.org
>      40   xml at python.org
>      30   c++ at python.org
>      29   navmse at craneplumbing.ca
>      20   python at m.gmane.org
>      15   mal at egenix.com
>      11   wingide at wingware.com
>      11   tameyer at ihug.co.nz
>      10   guido at python.org
>      10   tkinter at python.org
>       9   bac at ocf.berkeley.edu
>       8   dbl at tentra.com
>       8   psf at python.org
>       8   webmaster at python.org
>       8   alan.gauld at blueyonder.co.uk
>       7   tim.peters at gmail.com
>       7   autoresponse at groups.msn.com
>       7   martin at v.loewis.de
>       7   docutils at lists.sourceforge.net
>       7   dc at python.org
>       6   baypiggies at fuzzyorange.com
>       6   tim_one at users.sourceforge.net
>       6   jlgijsbers at planet.nl
>       6   expat at libexpat.org
>       5   ben at benlast.com
>       5   skip at mojam.com
>       5   matt at mondoinfo.com
>       5   wnvcole at peppermillcas.com
>       5   python at rcn.com
>       5   erikpiper at click.cz
>       5   walter at livinglogic.de
>       5   admin at system.mail
>       5   loewis at users.sourceforge.net
>       5   distutils at python.org
>       5   i18n at python.org
>       5   mailer at python.org
>       4   python at bernardlebel.com
>       4   uche.ogbuji at fourthought.com
> 
> top 50 Recipients by message count
> ----------------------------------
>     671   skip at pobox.com
>     604   mizuno at yukiharu.com
>     603   mizuno at azabu.co.jp
>     584   walter at livinglogic.de
>     563   tismer at stackless.com
>     554   loader at loader.3322.org
>     507   tim.peters at gmail.com
>     489   mal at egenix.com
>     481   mlist at asesoft.ro
>     458   michaelr5 at mac.com
>     445   bradb at bbnet.ca
>     445   hyeshik at gmail.com
>     444   henriquesjl at yahoo.es
>     435   python_lists at freemail.hu
>     428   davida at activestate.com
>     425   andrewm at object-craft.com.au
>     423   erik at heneryd.com
>     423   lurker at free.net.ph
>     417   trentm at activestate.com
>     409   saifi_khan at gamebox.net
>     407   t-meyer at ihug.co.nz
>     405   jae+python at jerhard.org
>     403   lists at mjtsai.com
>     402   barry at wooz.org
>     400   niemeyer at conectiva.com
>     400   mak at trisoft.com.pl
>     399   kmead at cmsystems.org
>     399   rnd at onego.ru
>     399   baris at uludag.org.tr
>     397   ayose.cazorla at hispalinux.es
>     397   aau69800 at par.odn.ne.jp
>     397   whisper at oz.net
>     394   andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au
>     394   szabi at mplayerhq.hu
>     394   d+pydev at trit.org
>     391   stuart at stuartbishop.net
>     390   webmaster at beyond-thoughts.com
>     390   lists at webcrunchers.com
>     390   john.abel at pa.press.net
>     389   dr.lizou at gmail.com
>     389   gtalvola at nameconnector.com
>     382   ronaldoussoren at mac.com
>     382   lists at ghaering.de
>     381   zbir at urbanape.com
>     381   bdash at gmx.net
>     381   john at hazen.net
>     381   wsanchez at wsanchez.net
>     379   pinard at iro.umontreal.ca
>     378   fumanchu at amor.org
>     375   marklists at mceahern.com
> 
> top 50 Senders by message size
> ------------------------------
>     902m  python at python.org
>   89245k  none at bag.python.org
>   20419k  mailman at python.org
>   15219k  tutor at python.org
>    5955k  spambayes at python.org
>    5313k  web at python.org
>    2966k  pythonmac at python.org
>    1755k  patches at python.org
>    1441k  db at python.org
>     923k  shapiro at menssana.org
>     602k  pythonce at python.org
>  441247   pydotorg at python.org
>  337971   xml at python.org
>  324057   argrill at warnerpower.com
>  308975   noreply at sourceforge.net
>  253282   noreply at python.org
>  217738   c++ at python.org
>  126223   navmse at craneplumbing.ca
>  119090   barry at creosote.python.org
>  115698   jdahye at kordi.re.kr
>  114354   majordomo at sig.net
>   74148   bac at ocf.berkeley.edu
>   68976   mhammond at skippinet.com.au
>   68678   mspss at gto.net.om
>   67859   jph at emilia.engr.sgi.com
>   67297   python at m.gmane.org
>   59384   mal at egenix.com
>   49099   tkinter at python.org
>   48142   andrew.dolvig at freescale.com
>   46531   postmaster at python.org
>   46450   webmaster at python.org
>   44339   dc at python.org
>   43564   voteforbush at hotmail.com
>   43250   i18n at python.org
>   42651   en1 at aol.com
>   42337   estisanz at terra.es
>   42035   sales at pigeonforge.com
>   41721   wingide at wingware.com
>   41154   tameyer at ihug.co.nz
>   38515   docutils at lists.sourceforge.net
>   38160   mailer at filter02.mail.cornell.edu
>   34751   billr at smart.net
>   30310   europython at python.org
>   29395   psf at python.org
>   29160   anthonybaxter at users.sourceforge.net
>   28985   bgtees at hotmail.com
>   26774   admin at system.mail
>   26415   walter at livinglogic.de
>   23924   pythonmac at bounce.splio.com
>   23777   baypiggies at fuzzyorange.com
> 
> top 50 Recipients by message size
> ---------------------------------
>    3049k  barry at wooz.org
>    2856k  skip at pobox.com
>    2575k  mizuno at yukiharu.com
>    2565k  mizuno at azabu.co.jp
>    2326k  loader at loader.3322.org
>    2301k  tismer at stackless.com
>    2221k  walter at livinglogic.de
>    2167k  tim.peters at gmail.com
>    2140k  mal at egenix.com
>    2088k  python-list-bounces+wtrenker=shaw.ca at bag.python.org
>    1958k  mlist at asesoft.ro
>    1874k  michaelr5 at mac.com
>    1866k  tutor-bounces at bag.python.org
>    1822k  hyeshik at gmail.com
>    1815k  bradb at bbnet.ca
>    1774k  python-list-bounces+twolabs=bigmir.net at bag.python.org
>    1687k  davida at activestate.com
>    1663k  trentm at activestate.com
>    1662k  jeremy at alum.mit.edu
>    1645k  bac at ocf.berkeley.edu
>    1641k  henriquesjl at yahoo.es
>    1619k  python_lists at freemail.hu
>    1610k  python-list-bounces+acrraidx=lycos.es at bag.python.org
>    1609k  lurker at free.net.ph
>    1608k  erik at heneryd.com
>    1583k  python-list-bounces+bany1=centrum.cz at bag.python.org
>    1573k  python-list-bounces+soofern=msn.com at bag.python.org
>    1560k  andrewm at object-craft.com.au
>    1550k  john.abel at pa.press.net
>    1534k  lists at mjtsai.com
>    1509k  whisper at oz.net
>    1508k  mak at trisoft.com.pl
>    1507k  niemeyer at conectiva.com
>    1499k  saifi_khan at gamebox.net
>    1494k  webmaster at beyond-thoughts.com
>    1493k  lists at webcrunchers.com
>    1487k  t-meyer at ihug.co.nz
>    1481k  ayose.cazorla at hispalinux.es
>    1475k  aau69800 at par.odn.ne.jp
>    1465k  python-list-bounces+home=techfreak.net at bag.python.org
>    1461k  d+pydev at trit.org
>    1442k  andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au
>    1440k  szabi at mplayerhq.hu
>    1433k  jae+python at jerhard.org
>    1423k  dr.lizou at gmail.com
>    1420k  python-list-bounces+sonjavanhoed=com02.com at bag.python.org
>    1414k  baris at uludag.org.tr
>    1411k  kmead at cmsystems.org
>    1410k  python-list-bounces+premshree_python=yahoo.co.in at bag.python.org
>    1407k  rnd at onego.ru
> 
> message bounce detail (by relay)
> --------------------------------
>   local (total: 54)
>         25   unknown user: "none"
>         22   unknown user: "/dev/null"
>          5   mail forwarding loop for python-announce-list at bag.python.org
>          1   unknown user: "administrator"
>          1   unknown user: "av engine"
>   none (total: 11)
>         11   User unknown in virtual alias table
>   smtp.xs4all.nl[194.109.6.51] (total: 62)
>         34   5.1.8 <InfoSec at mailscan.umc.com>... Domain of sender addres...
>         17   5.1.8 <CBPostmaster at cbmain.collegeboard.local>... Domain of...
>          3   5.1.8 <mspss at gto.net.om>... Domain of sender address mspss at ...
>          2   5.1.8 <Administrator at corp.zantaz.com>... Domain of sender a...
>          2   5.1.8 <symantec_antivir at mona.int>... Domain of sender addre...
>          1   5.1.8 <Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways at bj.ulead.com.tw...
>          1   5.1.8 <anti-virus at paris8.securite.transpac.fr>... Domain of...
>          1   5.1.8 <root at localhost.bmlv.gv.at>... Domain of sender addre...
>          1   5.1.8 <smadmin at netranew.eppco.co.ae>... Domain of sender ad...
> 
> smtp delivery failures
> ----------------------
>   connection refused (total: 19)
>         19   smtp.xs4all.nl
>   connection timed out (total: 98)
>         98   smtp.xs4all.nl
>   server dropped connection without sending the initial smtp greeting 
> (total: 21)
>         21   smtp.xs4all.nl
> 
> Warnings: none
> 
> Fatal Errors: none
> 
> Panics: none
> 
> Master daemon messages: none
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