[ZWeb] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

[Simon Michael]

Jim Fulton wrote:
> That was yesterday:
> 
> "Because zope.org is a brittle mess and I don't want to take a chance of making
>  in worse.  If someone who feels that they have some grasp on that software
>  wants to help me, I'd be willing to try. "
> 
> Perhaps you took so much offense at the first part of what I said,
> you didn't notice the second part.

Ah. No. I didn't understand - thought you were talking about a grasp on 
zope.org's setup in general; and I  didn't take offense at anything you 
said. I don't see anything offensive there and I'm sorry if I come 
across that way myself (but I'd rather risk a little of that than give 
up). Yes: I want to help you upgrade zwiki.


> I don't know.  Does ZWiki have any tendrils in CMF? 

As far as I know, nothing that would affect CMF just from doing an upgrade.

Zwiki has a (manually invoked) upgradeAll method that adds some fields 
to the catalog being used by a wiki (and reindexes all pages) for better 
performance. I don't know which of the zope.org's wikis use a catalog, 
and whether they share the global catalog or have their own; if shared, 
this step could alter zope.org's memory usage, so I wouldn't do it right 
now.


> Has the version
> of ZWiki used on zope.org been modified in any way to work with the
> CMF?  I don't know.

I believe it's standard Zwiki 0.21.1. One security patch might have been 
applied from a later release (the no_dtml option) ? No I think it was not.


> Oh, BTW, zope.org runs some revision of the Zope 2.6 branch.
> Does the latest ZWiki work with that?

No; it needs at least 2.7. You point out a problem I'd forgotten about.

The latest Zwiki that works with 2.6 is 0.28 (or 0.34 with a little 
extra work). That's not a huge improvement on 0.21, perhaps not worth 
the upgrade effort. So I guess a zope upgrade must come first.

Thanks,
-Simon