Yesterday I posted what I thought to be a solution to the dtml_source question. I copied it _directly_ from one of our machines which must be running one of Jim's, um, "special recipes." Apologies for sending our bad code and thanks to everyone that helped get the thing working! ... Jiiiiiimmm!!!!!!! --Rob -- Rob Page V: 540 371 6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com