[Zope] External Methods

[Stephan Richter]

You have a good point, but I had Cold Fusion training and I think Cold Fusion
is very limiting.
I am working for iXL (as you can see on my email address), one of the five
largest Web programming companies, and we have fuss about Cold Fusion all the
time. I believe that we as professional web developers should be able to speak
a real programming language such as Python. When I write a web page i want to
do everything I need to do.
Another point is, that tasks never get easier. Just imagine a client comes back
half a year after deployment and tells you that you increased his revenue by
400% and he now wants a new feature. I saw it happen, that the developer was
unable to accomplish that because Cold Fusion (same for similar products) did
not do it, and usually these type of programmers do not know enough to write
DLLs. How bad does that look in front of a client?

I try not to start a war called Zope vs. Cold Fusion. I just try to lay out
some facts. :)

stephan

On Tue, 03 Aug 1999, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> that's an interesting point. i have this ongoing discussion with one of my
> best friends who does webdesign and web-programming (nothing on a real
> programming language level like perl or python) for a living. he swears by
> cold fusion.
> 
> now, is zope really what cold fusion wants to be? i have to plead ignorance
> when it comes to using cold fusion, i never tried it. from what this friend
> keeps telling me it looks like cold fusion allows you to do the fancy
> shmancy graphics stuff pretty well with WYSIWIG editors and such. i don't
> think that's the road zope is going itself, zope as i see it is more about
> enabling, programming, and basically being the workhorse back-end to those
> graphics.
> 
> of course this friend and i have discussed this quite often and we kid each
> other about what our favorite products can and can't do. in terms of the
> ability to use real programming, like zope, he says he doesn't want to get
> into it, or even shouldn't have to. for him it's the ability to present a
> winning design and do some point and click to connect to the database. time
> is money. i on the other hand love that programming stuff and can't stop
> having new and neat ideas about what to program.
> 
> i think cold fusion and zope have a much-different philosophy. it's really
> hard to compare the two.
> 
--
Stephan Richter
iXL - Software Designer and Engineer