[Zope] OT: A petition condemning non-standard compliance in I
E5
Paul Everitt
Paul@digicool.com
Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:33:38 -0500
Ahh yes, Glenn "Master of Self-Promotion" Davis has found a cause with
which to attach his persona. Glenn got his start at InfiNet, our former
majority owner. I remember when he shared a 10x10 office with the other
Mac person there.
I love the "I'm not asking as Mr. Mega Big-wig, nor as My. Hyper Star,
I'm asking as a humble guy that singlehandedly saved the web" part.
That paragraph is so pathetic, I can't believe he actually wrote it.
IMO opinion, the only cause he is advancing is himself. It's a shame,
because browser vendors _do_ need to be beaten into standards compliance
and away from bait-and-switch.
--Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Bernstein [mailto:mbernstein@profitscape.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 2:38 PM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] OT: A petition condemning non-standard
> compliance in IE5
>
>
> I apologize if for the off-topic nature of this post, but felt it was
> too important to ignore.
>
> Microsoft has released IE5, which is non-compliant with many of the
> standards that Microsoft has helped author. As widespread
> compliance to
> standards is one of the things that will greatly enhance Zopes success
> in the marketplace (i.e. WebDAV, XML-RPC), I felt that this issue
> deserved to be aired here too.
>
> The original statement from the WSP can be found at:
> http://www.webstandards.org/ie5.txt
>
> Following is an email posted to another list I am on, as I think this
> sums up the appropriate responses rather well.
>
> Michael Bernstein
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "A List Apart" <post@alistapart.com>
> Subject: A List Apart - Special Announcement
> To: "Michael Bernstein" <mbernstein@profitscape.net>
>
> Greetings Webmakers.
>
> The following is a special note from our friend Glenn Davis
> regarding a
> somewhat urgent and pressing issue. I won't waste time
> talking about it,
> as
> the following explains it all quite well. I hope everyone finds it in
> them
> to support the cause.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Brian M. Platz, ALA Co-Moderator
>
>
> ------
> Greetings!
> Since 1993 I've done my best to show everyone the good on
> the web and
> to
> help anyone who wanted it gain the knowledge they needed to
> create that
> good. Today I'm asking for your help. I'm not asking not as Glenn
> Davis,
> CTO of Project Cool, and not as Glenn Davis, cofounder of The Web
> Standards
> Project. I'm asking as Glenn Davis, a man who, for the past six years
> has
> worked to make the web a better place for everyone.
> Recently Microsoft released their 5.0 browser and after
> all this time
> there is still not 100% support for the standards that make web
> development
> easier. Standards that Microsoft helped create.
> Below are three simple letters. Very to the point letters that ask
> one
> very simple question. I'm hoping that you'll pick just one of those
> letters and use it to ask Microsoft the very simple question
> within. If
> you would copy just one of those letters into an email and send that
> email
> to wasp@microsoft.com I would very much appreciate it. This email
> address
> is one that Microsoft set up for email about standards. I'm
> also asking
> that you pass this email along to anyone else who has ever
> tried to make
> a
> webpage.
> My sincerest thanks for the help you provide.
>
>
> Sincerely and simply,
> Glenn Davis
>
> ------------------
> CSS-1 Letter--------
>
> To: wasp@microsoft.com
>
> Dear Microsoft:
> As a web developer who spends far too much time working
> around browser
> incompatabilities, I need to know when you will offer full support for
> CSS-1 in your Internet Explorer browser. Could you please
> respond with
> the
> date when I might expect this?
> If you don't plan to ever support 100% of this standard,
> then please
> let me know that also. I have my future to consider. I'm not asking
> for
> long excuses or explanations from you. I'd prefer that you
> respond with
> either the date on which that support will occur or the word "never."
> Sincerely,
> (Your name here)
> (Your company name here)
>
>
> DOM Letter--------------
>
> To: wasp@microsoft.com
>
> Dear Microsoft:
> As a web developer who spends far too much time working
> around browser
> incompatabilities, I need to know when you will offer full support for
> the
> W3C DOM in your Internet Explorer browser. Please let me
> know when that
> will happen. A simple date will suffice for a response.
> If you don't plan to ever support 100% of this standard,
> then please
> let me know that also. I have my future to consider. I'm not asking
> for
> long excuses or explanations from you. I'd prefer that you
> respond with
> either the date on which that support will occur or the word "never."
>
> Sincerely,
> (Your name here)
> (Your company name here)
>
> HTML 4.0 Letter--------------------
>
> To: wasp@microsoft.com
>
> Dear Microsoft:
> As a web developer who spends far too much time working
> around browser
> incompatabilities, I need to know when you will offer full support for
> HTML
> 4.0 in your Internet Explorer browser. On what date will this event
> occur?
> If you don't plan to ever support 100% of this standard,
> then please
> let me know that also. I have my future to consider. I'm not asking
> for
> long excuses or explanations from you. I'd prefer that you
> respond with
> either the date on which that support will occur or the word "never."
>
> Sincerely,
> (Your name here)
> (Your company name here)
>
> -------------------
>
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