[Zope] fastcgi and ISP's -- alternatives?

[Jim Fulton]

Jason Jones wrote:
> 
> on 11/19/99 4:49 AM, Jim Fulton at jim@digicool.com wrote:
> 
> > Jason Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> According to the Zope fastcgi package, it sounds like Zope will only run
> >> under a mod_fastcgi snapshot later than 2.2.2. Is this correct?
> >
> > It should be easier with 2.2.2. It should work with earlier versions,
> > but you'll have to use mod_rewrite to pass authentication data or let
> > apache do authentication.
> 
> Thanks for the info. The ZAG documentation, specifically the line:
> 
>      "The latest stable version of mod_fastcgi at the time of this writing
> is 2.2.2. You'll need to either grab one of the latest snapshots or a newer
> version (if one exists)..."
> 
> reads as if 2.2.2 won't work and a later version is required. It's good to
> know this is just an awkward paragraph and not true.

The ZAG instructions might not work.  I assume that they tell
you about an option to pass the authentication header. This is the
change that was made (for Zope) in 2.2.2.

> >
> >> I want to run Zope through fastcgi under apache on my ISP, but I doubt I can
> >> convince them to install an unstable snapshot. I've tried pcgi but it's very
> >> slow. Is there any work being done on a mod_zope or some other connection
> >> method that ISP's would willing run?
> >
> > Do you think that some new mod_zope would be more stable that mod_fastcgi
> > 2.2.2?
> >
> 
> Nope, see above - I thought you were requiring an unstable post-2.2.2
> mod_fastcgi....
> 
> I will note however that a mod_zope couldn't hurt ISP adoption. I've been
> calling tons of them and most don't seem willing to deal with anything that
> isn't standard cgi or compiled into apache, and strangely enough most of
> them won't do mod_fastcgi either.

Why? Why would they do mod_zope and not mod_fastcgi?

BTW, I assume that you are aware of the commercial FastCGI
support at www.fastcgi.org.


> What Zope could really use is a simple
> setup like mod_php and a good PR push behind it so that ISP's will take it
> up. A start might be mod_python or something like that. If I recall
> correctly, one of the modules for embedding python already has some glue
> code for Zope (from the 1.10 release).

If I was an ISP, I'd be wildly more receptive to mod_fastcgi (or mod_pcgi,
if it existed) than a module that embedded a perl or python interpreter
in the web server.

Jim

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