[Zope] contrasting Zope vs. Vignette

[Christopher Petrilli]

> I've been reading the Spetra/Zope comparisons with interest.  My
> company is investigation Zope and Vignette.  Do any of you have
> experience with them that you'd like to share?  How easy is it to work
> with, how flexible is it, etc?
>
> I get to go to a Vignette presentation tomorrow.  Do any of you have
> any advice about what to look for and/or ask?

Well, I know quite a few people at Vignette (they're in my home town), and
interesting had a 3 hour discussion with one of their larger customers when
I was flying back from SFO this weekend...

o Performance in NON-cache mode

o Real personalization issues (I was told they have little more than a rough
framework that pales compared to ZClasses even)

o Cost :-)  I know for a fact that only one or two people have ever bought
Vignette without a lot of consulting.  Average deployment is around $500K-1M
and a first strike is $150-200K.

o Flexibility.  There's nothing anywhere near acquisition in Vignette, and
not even close.

o Delegation of authority (a'la our security model).

o Security Model.  They didn't want to talk about it when I asked them at
one of their presentations.  This scares me.

Chris

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