[Zope] Phil Greenspun on ACS and ZOPE

[Jerry Spicklemire]

As for the link below, Dr. G points out how effectively the ACS team
leveraged the
ready made tools built into AOL Server, and contrasts this with incorrect
references
to the Zope team's decisions to "build it all themselves". PG says they
built their own
Web Server, but it's actually Sam Rushing's "Medusa". Similarly, PG points
out that
the Zope team built their own RDBMS, but it's really Aaron Watters' "Gadfly".

You sort of get the idea that while Dr. G may indeed be the world's leading
expert 
on ACS, that he hasn't a clue about the range and quality of the
contributions the 
Python Community has made to Open Source in general. Not really surprising,
but 
sad that so many readers may be mislead . . .

>and more on ACS vs ZOPE here:
http://www.photo.net/building->community/infrastructure.adp
>(at the 2nd finding "ZOPE", I've not noticed this before. Did any one?)

Also, in terms of numbers the DC modules plus the Zope Communities'
contributions
stand up quite well to the ACS listing, especially considering the Zope
Project is barely 
1.5 years old!

>and his list of prebuilt modules of ACS here:
>http://www.arsdigita.com/pages/toolkit/modules.html

As for a viable alternative to Oracle, let PG himself answer that one:

	"The open-source purist's only realistic choice for an RDBMS is
PostgreSQL, available from www.postgresql.org. In some ways, PostgreSQL has
more advanced features than any commercial RDBMS. Most important, the
loosely organized unpaid developers of PostgreSQL were able to convert to
an Oracle-style multi-version concurrency system (see below), leaving all
the rest of the commercial competition deadlocked in the dust."

	http://photo.net/wtr/aolserver/introduction-2.html

Also see:		http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2000-April/024553.html

>, though the price tag of Oracle repels more, ;-)

>LEE Kwan Soo.

Later,
Jerry S.