[Zope] riddle me this Batman, coded copy/paste syntax?

[Darran Edmundson]

The Zope quick reference lists the following methods
for the stock folder object:

   manage_copyObjects(self, ids, [REQUEST, RESPONSE])
   manage_cutObjects(self, ids, [REQUEST])
   manage_delObjects(self, [ids, REQUEST])
   manage_pasteObjects(self, [cb_copy_data, REQUEST])

For the life of me I can't get copy|cut and paste
to work even for the simplest of examples.  I've
tried snippets like the following (embedded within
a DTML method in a folder) but to no avail:

  <dtml-call "manage_copyObjects(['subobjectid']">
  <dtml-call "manage_pasteObjects()">

  <dtml-call "manage_copyObjects([_['subobjectid']])">
  <dtml-call "manage_pasteObjects()">

Can someone shed some light on my misunderstanding?

Cheers,
Darran.