Chris McDonough wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/gainenlightenment :::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Haven't finished this whole thing yet, but this looks like what I have needed! Highly recommended reading for Zope newbies (and maybe even Not-So-Newbies) Thanks Chris (and I love your self-deprecating style)! Darren Addy University of Nebraska at Kearney