[Zope] Is Zope slow?

[Firestar]

Hi Bill, thanks for your reply.

------Original Message------
From: Bill Anderson <bill@libc.org>
To: Firestar <theebh@mail.com>
Sent: July 6, 2000 8:19:39 AM GMT
Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

>Define slow. Slow compared to what? Doing what?

>That's a ig difference between Zope and Apache and AOLServer. 
>they don't _do_ the stuff that Zope does.

>Apache does little other than serve stati files, and take 
>output from cgis (or modules, same _basic_ concept). Zope 
>actually does the work. For some things Zope is appropriate, 
>and where it is, it outperforms (IME) Apache. For others, like 
>serving static content, it is slowER than apache.

>of course, slow is all relative. I have a couple zope Servers 
>cranking out ~80 requests per second. Is that slow? ;)

>That's ~6 Million requests/day. Cut it in half, for more 
>complicated tasks, and still moving along at a good clip. 
>What's better, try Apache doing the same things.

>Does your next project invlove more than just static files 
>sitting on a
>hard drive? Chances are, you'll be better off with Zope....

I have been programming with PHP and PERL, and they are quite fast, even when serving dynamic pages. Of course, they do not provide all the features of Zope, but they are able to handle things like sessions, authentication, database API...which is quite adequate for most small-to-medium websites. (although sometimes it's quite frustrating putting the modules together:)

>Speed and Bencmarks are irrelevant when it comes to real-world
>performance. :)

benchmark may not be accurate, but i still think that speed is still impt. Check out Jakob Nielsen's website and you would know that speed of serving webpages is one of the main usability factors. 

But then again, if Zope really is THAT good, i may be inclined to switch over and use it as my main development tool in future; but the speed factor is still worrying me - i wouldn't want my website to 'crawl' when i'm presenting it to my boss or clients:)

regards,
thee

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