hi again, there were threads that talk about restarting Zope if and when it hangs. i know of the -Z option for z2.py and daemontools. i know there's another one, a script maybe, with a peculiar name, but can't really remember it. any clues/url? i wwant to give it a try thanks -- ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.kedai.com.my/kk Am I Evil?