[Zope] Zope needs this (and Dynamo has it)

Patrick Phalen zope@teleo.net
Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:50:32 -0800


[Shalabh Chaturvedi, on Wed, 08 Mar 2000]

:: I see a number of articles/sites about 'app servers' which don't mention Zope
:: but mention others (including some mickey mouse servers I've never heard of).
:: Eg: http://serverwatch.internet.com/appservers.html
:: Why? Maybe Zope isn't talked about at all outside some circles?
:: 
:: Altavista shows about 1058 pages linking to zope.org (compare php.net:12,000 ;
:: apache.org:60,000). Why?
:: 
:: If nobody does anything, this will take time to change. If we want this to
:: change faster, all of us have to actively market Zope. This involves talking
:: about in appropriate newsgrousps, putting up zope webpages,
:: making Zope easier to learn and use, adding flashy features etc.
:: All this can make a whole lot of difference.

Yesterday, I was asked, by a client, to put together a side-by-side
comparison of Zope and Vignette for presentation to their IT managers.
I did a lot of searching on the Web, but found only the one article from
this list last October, which was written by someone with no experience
with either of the two!

Frequently, people have asked for this sort of data on this list, but
I've never seen a coherent answer. It's a FAQ.

Digital Creations might be able to help here, since they have direct
experience with clients who have started with Vignette and switched to
Zope. It would probably be "impolitic" for DC to author a public
article taking Vignette to task, but certainly they could help an
independent author with facts. If that article could then be published
in DevShed or Web Development, or another visible place, it would give
us all something to point to. Search engines would index it. The word
would spread.

Vignette is often characterized as the "industrial strength" CMS, so it
would seem a good target for a comparison, especially due to its high
cost.