[Zope] Zope needs this (and Dynamo has it)

Paul Everitt paul@digicool.com
Thu, 09 Mar 2000 07:31:07 -0500


PCWeek did a shoot-out of various CMS packages about six months ago. 
They created a "scoresheet" that might be useful.  Unfortunately,
Vignette stood by their policy of not allowing their software to
reviewed, so it includes several other CMS packages.

--Paul

Patrick Phalen wrote:
> 
> [Shalabh Chaturvedi, on Wed, 08 Mar 2000]
> 
> :: I see a number of articles/sites about 'app servers' which don't mention Zope
> :: but mention others (including some mickey mouse servers I've never heard of).
> :: Eg: http://serverwatch.internet.com/appservers.html
> :: Why? Maybe Zope isn't talked about at all outside some circles?
> ::
> :: Altavista shows about 1058 pages linking to zope.org (compare php.net:12,000 ;
> :: apache.org:60,000). Why?
> ::
> :: If nobody does anything, this will take time to change. If we want this to
> :: change faster, all of us have to actively market Zope. This involves talking
> :: about in appropriate newsgrousps, putting up zope webpages,
> :: making Zope easier to learn and use, adding flashy features etc.
> :: All this can make a whole lot of difference.
> 
> Yesterday, I was asked, by a client, to put together a side-by-side
> comparison of Zope and Vignette for presentation to their IT managers.
> I did a lot of searching on the Web, but found only the one article from
> this list last October, which was written by someone with no experience
> with either of the two!
> 
> Frequently, people have asked for this sort of data on this list, but
> I've never seen a coherent answer. It's a FAQ.
> 
> Digital Creations might be able to help here, since they have direct
> experience with clients who have started with Vignette and switched to
> Zope. It would probably be "impolitic" for DC to author a public
> article taking Vignette to task, but certainly they could help an
> independent author with facts. If that article could then be published
> in DevShed or Web Development, or another visible place, it would give
> us all something to point to. Search engines would index it. The word
> would spread.
> 
> Vignette is often characterized as the "industrial strength" CMS, so it
> would seem a good target for a comparison, especially due to its high
> cost.