[Zope] Zope v OpenACS and nonprofit application developers

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I think Zope has more potential to spread and increase its users base than
OpenACS.

I really like Photo.net (a large "heavily modified"-according to them-, ACS
implementation) and really would like to replicate some of its most
appealing features. But as I'm not a DBA, and to learn to manage databases
seems to be unwilling for an information architect, I find Zope to be a
better choice for an excellent basement to any future low-cost,
information-rich web site.

>From my point of view Zope has the advantage of running in Windows boxes as
well as Unixs, because it lets non Linux gurus to give Zope a try at the
very first time, with a single installation. Also, this single installation
is really a huge help, because it allows the newbie to see the learning
curve as an answer to "how do I do more?" instead of "how do I get all this
to work?".

Zope IS really easy to learn IF there's someone to tell the basics. When
Zope reaches the classrooms, and there are teachers teaching
fundamentals -like the acquisition concept- I'm sure the users base will
grow really faster. I don't know about other languages, but I see myself as
an example that the gap between htmlers (every other web worker except DBAs
;) ) and database administrators, is easily filled with DTML (and of course
ZPT, wich is meant to be the DTML's succesor).

I keep admiring the philosophy under Ars Digita. I'd like to see something
living as Alex (or George?) as a logo for the Zope platform, and some color
at Zope.org  (for God sake!  ;)  )  but (fortunately) it seems like  the
community  doesn't need it.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ward" <mward@techrocks.org>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: [Zope] Zope v OpenACS and nonprofit application developers


> Hello all:
> I work with a nonprofit organization that helps other nonprofits with
> technology. We do everything from developing a free desktop database
> application, www.ebase.org, to providing strategic consulting to
progressive
> activist groups on how to further their mission.
>
> Currently, there is a very active discussion about building applications
for
> the nonprofit world in open source tools. 2 platforms are being discussed
> OpenACS and Zope. The discussion has quite a few champions/developers of
> OpenACS, but there aren't any people that seem to have real experience
with
> Zope. A couple have played with it or done small projects.
>
> The discussion is taking place on a listserver sponsored by the Nonprofit
> Open Source Intiative, www.nosi.net, which isn't much of anything beside
the
> discussion that I am referring to.
>
> If there are some people in this community that have an interest in
> nonprofit organizations and would be willing to share their expertise on
> zope, it would be greatly appreciated at this important decisionmaking
time
> for us. Not to mention I think there will be some development power
spawned
> out of this discussion.
>
> So...You can subscribe from here =>
> http://www.nosi.net/mailman/listinfo/nosi-discussion  .   (If you look at
> the archives, the discussion gets interesting around the post with the
> subject "The problem of picking a programming language/framework".
>
> And honestly, I don't think Zope sucks as badly as the OpenACS people say
> ; )
> (That is a total joke trying to bait people into participating.)
>
> m
>
> --
> Michael Ward
> Senior Consultant
> TechRocks, A supporting organization to the Rockefeller Family Fund
> mward@techrocks.org
> 212-812-4255
> http://www.techrocks.org
>
>
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