We have found the official Zope animal: it is a fish that is rare but populated in whole europe. It can be found in the Austrian directory fish types: (the page is in german but when I have time I'll put a translated version= of it onto our homepage) http://www.oefg1880.at/fische/zope.html Wouldn't that be the right animal to be put on the O'Reilly Book )): ...any comments? Philipp Auersperg