[Zope] [OT]Browser Differences

Bill Anderson bill@libc.org
02 Jul 2001 11:36:15 -0600


On 02 Jul 2001 03:47:10 -0400, marc lindahl wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Bill Anderson <bill@libc.org>
> 
> >> But it is part of the HTML4 standard that CSS has to be supported, and all
> >> the standards after (e.g. XHTML), right?
> > 
> > I don't recall the spec saying that to follow this spec you have to
> > follow all later ones. That would be nonsensical. or are you meaning
> > something else?
> 
> Of course I mean that CSS will be required to be supported in future HTML
> specs.

Oh, ok. it makes sense. Though we can't blame today's, or yesterday's in
the case of NS4, browsers for not supporting tomorrow's stadards. :)

> > 
> > * IE Trashing the Box model
> > 
> > According to the spec, a box that is listed as 300 wide, and a 20
> > internal padding is 340 wide. IE makes the box 300 wide, and shrinks
> > internally to make the padding. Now, in 6.0beta, this has partially been
> > resolved. 
> 
> True, but I see this as a minor annoyance compared to NS4's inability to set
> a zero left margin with CSS, for example, or randomly render moderately
> complicated table layouts.

It depends on layouts. I encounter the box-model problem more often than
the zero-margin problem.

> > 
> > Now, unless we can convert this back to zope-ness, I suggest we take it
> > private if you wish to continue.
> 
> I put up as an example, the layouts in CMF.  They don't render correctly in
> NS4.  Perhaps you can suggest some ways to fix it.

How do they not render correctly? I have hundreds of clients that use
NS4, and have had no problems with the default CMF layout. I just loaded
up 4.76, and it looks just like it does under mozilla, and IE, with the
clear exception of font differences due to the platform.


> Another thing that would be nice is if the ZMI worked in IE5 -- cut and
> paste don't work in that browser.

Hmmm ... the few times I've used IE5 for ZMI work, I've never noticed
that problem. Do you mean cut and past of objects, or text?


On that note, quite often, in Mozilla, it won't go back a page in the
ZMI. That is friggin annoying. it is mostly when I forget to close a
dtml-in or something, andit displays the error. Then I cannot go back
and finish it, winding up losing all the changes. That is, IIRC, due to
javascript issues, but I may be wrong.

Bill

PS either send to me, or the list, but please, not both.