[Zope] newbie: superuser login authorization failed

[Nicole Lallande]

Tony McDonald wrote:

> Ok, I'll probably get battered for this, but people seem to have fewer
> problems with the tarball than with the RPM. Chris mentioned the linux
> binary release, and as someone who started off with binary releases
> (Solaris) I can state that they *do work*.

I try to use RPM installations most of the time because I am a 'sunday
programmer' and tarball installations tend to require more of my input -
but at this point I give up on the rpms both the powertools version and
the zope list version - been down those roads for 2 days now with no
success.  
 
> (I note you haven't got a filename in the above zpasswd line).

I had it in there - I have successfully added and changed passwords in
this file but it is still not recognized - I sure hope I don't get
through the tarbal install and find that the problem is with NN4.77 -
please tell me that is NOT going to happen!  I wonder about encoding -
if the browser encodes the password using a different encoding method
than it was created with in the access file - then how can they be
matched?  the zpasswd.py file mentions three different encoding options
- SHA, UNIX and CLEARTEXT - the question is what is the browser using?
 
> It's a traceback - and yes to people new to Zope, it is daunting. What it's
> saying is that you're unauthorized for the URL you were trying to look at.
> Was it
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manage ? 

-yes - that's the url - glad to know that is all they are saying - too
bad there is not a way to fix it.
> 
> There's the tarball source installation, and the tarball binary
> installation. The binary releases are only made for beta and final versions
> of Zope (that's why there's no binary for 2.4.0a1 - 'here be dragons!').

OK - now I do have a working python compiler - but why would I want to
do the source install if I have the binaries?  is there any benefit of
doing the source installation vs the other?  

Also thanks for your advice on the Zserver vs apache configuration -
something I read somewhere (the book, the docs, the help, the mailing
list archive -- <scotty beam me UP>) in the past two days convinced me
to use the Zserver configuration.  Are you saying that out of the
tarball 'box' so to speak the configuration is Zserver?  or do I have to
do something special to select zserver.  is the zope start-up script
placed into the /etc/rd.d/init.d directory on this install as well?  

> There's a lot of information to assimilate when first using Zope Nicole, not
> least the different publishing model the system uses. 
> It's definitely worth it - we have about a dozen developers thundering away
> at Zope now and our productivity is dramatically higher than the old
> Perl/PHP days...

I am learning Zope for a client that is considering zope for their
corporate intranet - seems like it would be perfect for that - I will
also be very interested to see how it increases productivity in perl/php
development (languages of choice for 'sunday' programmer such as
myself.)

> HTH
> Tone

Yes, TH'ed - thanks, Tone.

Warm regards from San Diego,

Nicole

PS - almost went to England for a visit this month - got cancelled
<sigh>

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