[Zope] A Tale from IBM land...

[Jim Penny]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 08:14:12AM -0700, Charlie Blanchard wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:39:56PM -0700, Mike Krohn wrote:
> [snipped excellent commentary for brevity...]
> > 
> > Finally, on buzzwords, I'd say go easy on Python. It scares
> > people. Say Perl, say XML, say any other ML. Who cares what
> > BroadVision is written in? Why should we care with Zope?
> > (someone is going to hate that).
> 
> oh boy, gotta agree with Python being scary here. the ceo i'm
> going to have to convince [see earlier message near top of this thread]
> has a couple issues around Python specifically.
> 
> 1. for all the reasons outlined in earlier posts, he knows very
> little about Python and so has no 'warm fuzzies' associated with
> it.
> 
> 2. he is concerned about keeping his legacy programmers happy. to
> a certain degree. his issue is that if we are going to move them
> from the existing M$ shop that they now are (VB, Access,
> SQLserver) and that the staff will have to learn something
> different, he wants thier 'buy in' and feels that to do so they
> need to percieve value (to thier own future) in learning whatever
> new technology we move them to. so it boils down to, "Python?
> will it advance my career to learn it vs say Java or [fill in the
> blank with whatever here]?"
> 
> 
> i'm facing an interesting challenge here. especially since this
> guy is already letting his staff know he's willing to pay more
> and allow a longer dev time if they pick a known (non oss)
> solution such as M$ or Java. in all the rhetoric about how much
> better a business decision it is to go open source, it's
> interesting to see first hand this perception from one who has to
> make a choice and put his money and business future on the
> line...

Ask if he is willing to let some of that extra money slip towards
his "legacy staff".  I suspect that doing so might encourage "buy in".

As to java, yes, it might help their careers.  It will definitely
help his, provided he is judged by man-hours spent to do projects.

Jim Penny
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