[Zope] Quickstart needs updating!

Chris McDonough chrism@digicool.com
Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:05:52 -0500


Actually, it's displayed by the root index_html as well.

I'll ax the old quickstart stuff unless anybody thinks differently.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Pelletier" <michel@digicool.com>
To: "Donald Braman" <donald.braman@yale.edu>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>; <luke@seeto.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Quickstart needs updating!


>
> There is a new "Zope Quick Start" menu selection in Zope 2.3.  I'm not
> sure why the old quickstart is still around, it should be axed in favor of
> this new screen.
>
> The Zope Quick Start menu selection is, I think, exactly what you're
> looking for.  Log into Zope.org into your member area and check it out,
> you can find it in the very top frame as a pulldown menu selection.
>
> -Michel
>
> On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Donald Braman wrote:
>
> > It's true that there is not a clear message as to where a newbie should
> > start to learn Zope. The Zope home page has a "Learn Zope" section. When
you
> > click on More..., though, you don't find a tutorial, but a kind of
"about
> > page". If you are really smart (or lucky), you'll then click on the Zope
> > Book link and read it cover to cover, doing all the exercises. However,
it
> > would be good to have this be explicitly stated as generically the best
way
> > to learn about Zope for those who are starting fresh.
> >
> > I propose a tweak to the layout for the zope.org home page, breaking out
> > "about Zope" and "Learning Zope". Learning Zope would contain, of
course,
> > links to various introductory documents and how-tos. However, it would
state
> > up front what a newbie who wants to learn Zope should do. It might also
have
> > separate sections for non-programmers, people with programming
experience,
> > real wizards, etc. Obviously people can learn however they want, but
being
> > told "If in doubt, do/read this, then do/read this, etc." is helpful to
> > newbies who are generally "in doubt" about what to do.
> >
> > BTW, I think Zope Newbies could do the same. A "Learn Zope" link or area
on
> > the top page there be very nice.
> >
> > -Don
> >
> >
> >
> > [Zope] Quickstart needs updating!
> > Michel Pelletier michel@digicool.com
> > Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:31:47 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Joel Burton wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Jeff Sasmor wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > >>>In The Almighty Lever
> > > >   "An exiting new development being worked on for Zope is The
Lever... "
> > > >
> > > >   (I have been working with Zope for well over a year and
> > > >    still don't know what THIS is....)
> > >
> > > Yeeps. Never heard of it.
> >
> > "The Lever" is the same thing as a ZClass factory.  In fact, the last
> > chapter of the Zope book explains how you can use factories to create
> > pre-fab templates from regular Zope objects as well as from
> > ZClasses.  That's the lever.
> >
> > http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/CustomZopeObjects.dtml
> >
> > > > >>> In "Programming Data with Tabula"
> >
> > Tabula became ZTables, which is the genetic predecessor of ZCatalog.
> >
> > > > Summary: Quickstart Really Needs to Get Updated
> >
> > Quickstart Really Needs to Get Axed.
> >
> > -Michel
> >
> >
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