[Zope] data point on ease of learning Zope -- I give up.

[Phil Harris]

You may be an experienced Python programmer but you're searching skills leave 
a bit to be desired.

Did you even *look* at the Zope book, linked from the Zope.org homepage?

Did you look at any of the source that comes with Zope?

There are a multitude of good examples there which would have had you up and 
running in no time (since you are an experienced Python programmer after all).

It's a shame to see you go, luck be with you.

Phil
phil.harris@zweb.co.uk



On Thursday 01 March 2001  9:59 pm, zooko@zooko.com wrote:
> Hi Zopesters!
>
>
> I'm an experienced Python programmer, and I need to hack together a
> quick web app that simply accepts POSTed XML data entries from
> authenticated users, stores the data persistently, and provides a
> formatted HTML representation of the list of all such entries to the
> same authenticated user.
>
>
> I thought I would look at using ZODB so that I could have the coolness
> of nearly transparent persistence.  Then I thought I would use Zope so
> that I wouldn't have to bother with connecting the HTTP transactions to
> the logic.
>
>
> So I did `apt-get install zope'[1] to download and install the current
> Debian-packaged version of Zope (v2.2.4), and while I was waiting on
> the download I went to zope.org.
>
>
>
> It is now about 3 hours later and I have not yet found any "example
> code" or instructions that shows how to set up a basic web site or how
> to write Python code that gets executed, CGI-style, in response to an
> HTTP transaction.  I browsed zope.org, the ZDP, and a site called
> "ZopeNewbies".  I looked at the "QuickStart" that came with the zope
> server, but all I saw was how to edit web pages using DTML.  I don't
> want to have anything to do with DTML (though we use it in my product,
> Mojo Nation[2], which BTW is probably the second-biggest open source
> Python app, after Zope), and I don't want to edit any static pages, so
> I stopped reading the "QuickStart".
>
>
> So now I give up.  I'm going to install apache (`apt-get install
> apache'), and use the Python bsddb module for a simple dict-like
> database.
>
>
> Even though I wasted about half of my scheduled time on trying to set
> up a basic Zope server, I'll probably still have my prototype up and
> running 3 hours from now, when I have a meeting with my co-workers.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Zooko
>
> [1]  apt-get is the app that implements Debian's package management
>      system.
>
> [2]  http://mojonation.net/
>
>
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