[Zope] the mysterious shutdown thing

Hank Bowry hank@broughton-sys.com
Fri, 11 May 2001 13:25:22 -0400


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>  concerning this thread... 
> 
> I'm experiencing very, very similar symptoms.  I have zope installed with 
> the newest src 2.3.2 (i think) running with apache and pcgi and have been 
> having periodic shutdowns of zope.....I've been tailing the logs for
apache 
> and zope, and the only thing is after zope goes down, apache logs that it 
> can't be reached....restarting zope works fine, and everything marches 
> on.....unfortunately this can't be the case after our projected june 1st 
> lauch of the a website.....I'd love to find the solution to this problem,
or 
> any hints about where or what to log to even identify the cause. 
> 
> we are running zope 2.3.2 in /opt/zope with apache from the SuSE 7.1 
> distribution....I've loaded the mod_python, and php, and backhand and some

> others, but I think only the pcgi and python have anything to do with 
> zope... 
> 
> on top of the basic installation, 
> I have installed Zcatalog, tinytables plus, squishdot, the zope hotfix,
and 
> yihaw 
> 
> somewhere in one of these installations was added another python directory

> (and I think this contributes to some or our problems, but I don't know
how 
> to prove it or change it) now, under zope we have a python (which is
version 
> 2) and a python 1.5.2 directory .....I'm not sure which piece may be
calling 
> which version, and which one maybe causing the shutdown..... 
> 
> any enlightenment will be greatly greatly greatly appreciated. 
> 
> thanks, 
> Hank Bowry 
> hank@broughton-sys.com 
> 
> Today's Topics: 
> 
>    1. zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] ZServer Must Be Continually Re-Started: 
>        my Method  to stop zope dead: (Tino Wildenhain) 
>    2. Re: ZServer Must Be Continually Re-Started: my Method to stop zope 
> dead: timeoutsocket: (Gilles Lavaux) 
>    
> Message: 1 
> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:25:35 +0200 
> From: Tino Wildenhain <tino@wildenhain.de> 
> To: Ben Ocean <zope@thewebsons.com>, 
>       Gilles Lavaux <gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it> 
> Cc: zope@zope.org 
> Subject: zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] ZServer Must Be Continually 
> Re-Started: 
>  my Method  to stop zope dead: 
> 
> Hi Ben, 
> 
> no this is completly different to your problem. 
> Dont know why these threads are intermixed. 
> 
> The problem below is zope not responding to requests 
> but still beeing running. 
> 
> Your problem is different: 
> 
> zope stops running instantly. 
> 
> So I expect something in your environment and/or python 
> version. Do you have a plain install or did you install 
> additionally products with zope? 
> 
> Regards 
> Tino Wildenhain 
> 

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; concerning this thread... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I'm experiencing very, very similar =
symptoms.&nbsp; I have zope installed with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the newest src 2.3.2 (i think) running with =
apache and pcgi and have been </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; having periodic shutdowns of zope.....I've been =
tailing the logs for apache </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and zope, and the only thing is after zope goes =
down, apache logs that it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; can't be reached....restarting zope works fine, =
and everything marches </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; on.....unfortunately this can't be the case =
after our projected june 1st </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; lauch of the a website.....I'd love to find the =
solution to this problem, or </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; any hints about where or what to log to even =
identify the cause. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; we are running zope 2.3.2 in /opt/zope with =
apache from the SuSE 7.1 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; distribution....I've loaded the mod_python, and =
php, and backhand and some </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; others, but I think only the pcgi and python =
have anything to do with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; zope... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; on top of the basic installation, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I have installed Zcatalog, tinytables plus, =
squishdot, the zope hotfix, and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; yihaw </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; somewhere in one of these installations was =
added another python directory </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (and I think this contributes to some or our =
problems, but I don't know how </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; to prove it or change it) now, under zope we =
have a python (which is version </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 2) and a python 1.5.2 directory .....I'm not =
sure which piece may be calling </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; which version, and which one maybe causing the =
shutdown..... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; any enlightenment will be greatly greatly =
greatly appreciated. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; thanks, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hank Bowry </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; hank@broughton-sys.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Today's Topics: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] =
ZServer Must Be Continually Re-Started: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; my =
Method&nbsp; to stop zope dead: (Tino Wildenhain) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: ZServer Must Be =
Continually Re-Started: my Method to stop zope </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; dead: timeoutsocket: (Gilles Lavaux) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Message: 1 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:25:35 +0200 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Tino Wildenhain =
&lt;tino@wildenhain.de&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Ben Ocean &lt;zope@thewebsons.com&gt;, =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gilles =
Lavaux &lt;gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: zope@zope.org </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: zope hangs vs: Re: [Zope] ZServer Must =
Be Continually </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Re-Started: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; my Method&nbsp; to stop zope dead: =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hi Ben, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; no this is completly different to your problem. =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dont know why these threads are intermixed. =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The problem below is zope not responding to =
requests </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; but still beeing running. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Your problem is different: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; zope stops running instantly. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; So I expect something in your environment =
and/or python </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; version. Do you have a plain install or did you =
install </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; additionally products with zope? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Regards </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Tino Wildenhain </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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