ok, I can't work out how to do this. I want to call a zclass add form from dtml something like... <dtml-call expr="capfiles.manage_addProduct(id='', title=title)"> now the class I created is called capella so the path to the form I want is /manage_addProduct/capella/capellaClass_factory. how do I do this? i've been trying to work it out for days :-( please help. thanks Dan