[Zope] HTML e-mail and irony

[Capesius, Alan]

Some problems contributing to this is that Egroups/YahooGroups interface
interprets HTML mail for the user.
So those who are aware of HTML vs. text issues may be unaware that they are
sending to the list in HTML if they read via egroups and then mail to the
list.  (648 people)

They never see a restriction until they get a reply from someone on the
list.

The NIP search engine doesn't handle it the same way, so you see the
attachment, as do those who subscribe directly.

And... users of Microsoft Exchange Server, Outlook etc.. based email systems
may not be able to control the settings if the server is set to override it
or may be unaware that MS does not default to plain text. Some incarnations
require that the user manually change the setting to plain text EVERY time
they send a message.



>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jeff Peterson [mailto:jpeterso@the-bridge.net]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:36 PM 
>>>To: Zope@Zope. Org
>>>Subject: RE: [Zope] HTML e-mail and irony
>>>
>>>
>>>That is the real issue here, those who know better.  For the 
>>>most part, and
>>>this is a guess, most who send html emails are newbies.  I 
>>>will go further
>>>and say that this is likely not just to Zope.  Zope is FREE 
>>>and in it's most
>>>minimal uses, very SIMPLE to manage for anyone.  What 
>>>attracts newbies?
>>>SIMPLE and FREE...
>>>
>>>What I am saying is I am of the school of gently pointing 
>>>"violators" to
>>>somewhere or something useful in changing the behavior.  
>>>Telling them to
>>>stop may work for some, others may not know how to turn it 
>>>off and are
>>>embarrassed to ask and they need to be shown, by a tutorial 
>>>or someone
>>>taking the time to explain it.  In any case, our attitude 
>>>should be that of
>>>ambassadors of list etiquette, because we want the list to 
>>>grow and we want
>>>new users of Zope.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jeffrey D. Peterson
>>>Webmaster/Web & Web Applications Engineer
>>>Range TV Cable & Broadband
>>>1818 E. 3rd Ave.  Hibbing, MN 55746
>>>jpeterso@rangebroadband.com
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On 
>>>Behalf Of Peter
>>>> Sabaini
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:00 PM
>>>> To: Jim Penny
>>>> Cc: zope@zope.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML e-mail and irony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well Web developers should know best when not to use HTML ;)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2001, Jim Penny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Is it not a bit ironic that a mailing list about a web 
>>>development
>>>> > system has such a strong policy against HTML e-mail.
>>>> >
>>>> > (Not that I disagree, html email is, whether one is 
>>>concerned about
>>>> > legibility, bandwidth, security, or privacy, an 
>>>unadulterated evil.
>>>> > But still, there is a tinge of irony).
>>>> >
>>>> > Jim Penny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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