[Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers

Farrell, Troy troy.farrell@wcg.com
Mon, 21 May 2001 07:37:35 -0500


Ouch!  You hit close to home there.

Yep.  I'd pay.  I spend enough time in the ZMI that I'm busy developing my
own hotfixes for the interface to make it workable.  Zope *badly* needs an
IDE, but not too many are willing to devote the time to it (myself
included).  It needs to have source available (so I can do my own bugfixes).
I'm really liking Zope's hotfix-ability, so that would be a niceity for the
IDE.  I don't mind it being based on Mozilla, but it should be a new one.
Mozilla offers the ability to do HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP outta the box, so
that's a start already.  I could probably pull off buying it at work.  If it
is good, I'd probably buy a personal copy and hope there wasn't a $100/year
upgrade tax.  Still, it's gotta have the source (ie Debian: For the
militantly free :)

Conclusion:
1) Gotta be Free software.
2) Should run on every platform that zope does.
3) Should offer HTTP, HTTPS (not optional in my environment), XML-RPC
(optional) and ZEO (for speed) access to the server.  Even cooler, run a ZEO
connection over ssh.

Troy

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Everitt [mailto:paul@digicool.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:23 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers



Howdy folks.  AndyM is running a poll over at ZopeZen:

  http://www.zopezen.org/
  (Look at the bottom of the left margin)

< spoiler warning>

Before reading the rest of this message, please vote.  I 
don't want to bias your response.  And don't peek at the 
results before you vote!

</spoiler warning>

OK, on to the discussion.  Are those numbers *really* accurate?  I gotta
admit, though I've had a soft spot in my heart for the Zope Studio
thing, I'm stunned that it would be in front.  Much less so *far* in
front.  Are these results an accurate reading of the sentiments -- that
given the list of choices Andy presented, a Zope Studio is so much more
popular than those choices!?!

Wow.  Let's try a different tack.  Pretend there was a for-free Zope
Studio and a for-fee Zope Studio.  Let's say the difference was either
like ActiveState's difference (personal use vs. professional use), or
say the difference was in "Professional" capabilities.

Does anyone think there would be any moderate-sized market for a for-fee
version?  How many of you would pay a few hundred bucks for a
high-quality dev/authoring/admin environment for Zope?

--Paul

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