[Zope] A new list needed?

[Joel Burton]

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote:

> akm's suggestion is a good one, although whether or not it will have the
> desired effect is a big question mark.  To do so I think it needs to
> avoid the stigma it seems to already have: "zope@ is for mindless
> newbies, zope-hackers@ is for people who can tie their shoes, zope-dev@
> is for Gods".  I'm not sure how to accomplish this.  It's really about
> being in different levels of development, not about "list A has smarter
> people than list B".
>
> I am going to risk having to don my asbestos suit here and say that
> closing ALL the lists would be extremely helpful, and it's not even
> about spam.  Requiring at least a few seconds of lurking before posting
> is a great idea.  If you want hand-holding and don't want to take a
> brief effort to see what the list is about, then you can pay someone for
> support.  Okay, I said it, flame away.
>
> One nitpick re naming:  -hackers is historically used for what zope-dev
> currently is being used for.  If there is going to be any change along
> these lines, perhaps a gradual rename of -dev to -hackers is in order,
> paralleled with a new list -devel or some such.

Ok, so the big questions are:

(1) hwo do we want to, as a community, responsible make a decision about
this?

do you want to have a simple vote for "Yes, create a new -hackers list" or
"No, don't" ?

will the fine folks at ZopeCorp set up a new list for us if this vote is
affirmative?


(2) it would seem that many people would love an NNTP feed for zope's ml;
few arguments are made for why that would be a bad thing as long as the
email format is kept.

who can set this up for us? volunteers?

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