[Zope] Platform statistics
Jeffrey Robinson
Jeffrey.Robinson@MCICoach.com
Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:54:32 -0600
Well, as luck would have it our NT admin built a new server from the ground
up and got PCGI working with no problem. This time, no hanging
pcgi_wrapper.exe or anything. (At least so far... before it used to do it
right from the get-go).
Right now, everything is based upon a clean install of IIS (not certain what
version) and NT sp6... so I hope everything goes just ducky for now.
Needless to say, the idea of having to reboot a server once it is in
production... well... uhm. Hmm, it doesn't sound like the best thing.
Though perhaps folks here are conditioned to it already!
Jeff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martijn Faassen [SMTP:faassen@vet.uu.nl]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 1:57 PM
> To: Jeffrey Robinson
> Cc: seb bacon; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Platform statistics
>
> Jeffrey Robinson wrote:
> [snip]
> > > Also, it sounds to me like your problems come from PCGI, rather than
> > > Zope?
> > >
> > Yes, infact I'm pretty sure you've hit the nail on the head with the
> > last point. (Personally, I've been in love with Zope shortly after I
> > started plugging away at it).
>
> PCGI is terrible, especially on NT, I suspect. I've been using a Zope
> setup behind Apache on NT, and regularly PCGI wrappers went haywire,
> were unkillable even by administrator, causing me to have to reboot
> the entire NT machine just to restart a Zope (because otherwise I'd
> get hanging PCGI wrappers). I suspect PCGI is much cleaner on a Unix
> box, though I've been using fastcgi there with Apache and this works
> fine and it seems to be efficient.
>
> Is there a fastcgi solution for IIS?
>
> Hm, apparently not: www.fastcgi.com says:
>
> Netscape/iPlanet & Microsoft - Fast Engines had FastCGI server extensions
> to Microsoft's IIS and Netscape's Enterprise Servers, but they are no
> longer
> available.
>
> Okay, my knowledge has run out. :)
>
> > My unfortunate position is that I'm the Graphic Designer so I can't
> > actually do the work on IIS myself (though I do get to run amuck with
> > Zope)... so I need to find definitive documentation on the IIS setup
> > (step-for-step) for the admin to use. There was some sort've
> > misconfiguration going on as calling Zope through IIS would launch
> > pcgi_wrapper.exe which would then hog the CPU. These processes couldn't
> be
> > killed, so the server had to be rebooted.
>
> Hm, hadn't read this yet; yes, that sounds exactly like my problem with
> Apache on NT. Seems like it's not Apache but really PCGI wrappers
> that are the culprit. So I just blame NT. :)
>
> Note that a Zope restart seems to trigger this kind of problem, in
> my experience..
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn